Re: Why i??? NEED YOUR INPUT

oh, I think the MSFT approach to its OS, languages and frameworks is best.

So what is best? Open source or the M$ approach. Can you expound?

IBM could compete with this - consider what IBM i would be like if IBM had

been investing $1Billion a year on IBM i software R&D since the day the
AS400 was announced?

I'd have to imagine IBM's is quite high - they just do it for the wrong
language - Java.

Aaron Bartell
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On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Steve Richter <stephenrichter@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 1:39 PM, <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

So you're saying that MS never grew much since their start up days, and
they are soon to close? Or when did they open source their operating
system and compilers?

oh, I think the MSFT approach to its OS, languages and frameworks is
best. They invest a huge amount of money in their stuff and are
getting solid value for the investment. C#, XAML, .Net, WPF,
Silverlight - cutting edge, great products. IBM could compete with
this - consider what IBM i would be like if IBM had been investing
$1Billion a year on IBM i software R&D since the day the AS400 was
announced? Since IBM will not make anywhere close to the level of
investment needed to compete head on against MSFT, you have to open
source to survive.

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From: Steve Richter <stephenrichter@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 02/25/2010 01:15 PM
Subject: Re: Why i??? NEED YOUR INPUT
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On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Aaron Bartell <aaronbartell@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Hi All,

Was on a call with IBM and the YiPs team yesterday. They are looking

for

ways to liven up, and modernize, their message about the benefits of the

IBM

i. The cool thing is that the folks on the phone weren’t your

traditional

marketing folks but people that have grown up with the machine and

actually

BELIEVE it is one of the best platforms for business today –

specifically

the IBM i OS.

The people on the phone might not have been traditional marketing
types, but they are asking the same, traditional question.

IBM keeps its new stuff like Open IO under wraps compared to MSFT
which releases beta and RC bits far in advance.

You have to open source the system for it to grow and prosper. The OS,
ILE, and RPG. ( DB2 is not needed if the code which couples the
database to the OS is published. )

Been doing Silverlight work lately. Fascinating how decoupled the SL
client is from the server OS. Windows server and even SQL server have
nothing special to offer a SL client which the client can't get from a
server like IBM i, Linux or AIX.

-Steve
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