Re: Modernizing applications (was: Explaining single level store to non ipeople)

Trevor,

If you read my Blog post "ENDPGM for IBM i?" it clearly uses facts not FUD
to document the decline of IBM i within IBM. Trevor, the only thing I have
not done and will not due is to quote numbers.

Trevor the big issue is that there is NO organization left in IBM. IBM i is
one of three operating systems that run on Power Systems. There is no
longer a sales organization dedicated to the product and most of the sales
force are System p UNIX and LINUX biased folks who will sell a $2k OS over a
$12k OS any day.

Show me one product in Software Group that has a strategic commitment from
IBM in any of the brands? There are none. Brands like Lotus and WebSphere
will support what exists but will not implement new products on IBM i.

Trevor your primary contact with IBM is one of the two remaining people who
make their living trying to retain as much revenue as possible form IBM i.
Unfortunately it is too little too late.

As far as people leaving IBM i, explain why the number of customers buying
IBM i or i5/OS SWMA are declining dramatically?

Trevor, you are one person working for a small company in New York. I was
responsible for a world wide market. I had IBM's full market research
organization available to me before I retired. There are very few sales of
new machines to new customers. There are some but few.

What I am saying here is that folks need to look at many options for
modernization. Modernizing existing RPG applicaitons may very well be a key
factor here.

The reason I am making these statements if folks need to plan for the future
and address modernization now. Trevor do not even begin to try and tell me
that IBM considers RPG a "strategic" language. Its development budget has
been cut to the bone. I had proposed before leaving that we port RPG to AIX
and LINUX. That was not approved. Keep an eye on the investments in AIX
and LINUX on Power Systems. See for yourself.

BTW, Trevor, DENIAL really isn't a river in Egypt.

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:59 AM, Trevor Perry <trevor@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Bob,

Your not-so-humble-opinion is rather terrifying, and does not match the
opinions of many IBMers and ex-IBMers. You seem to be alone in this FUD.
While many people have been predicting the demise of the AS/400 for a long
time, there is still a strong community of iCustomers who will continue to
use this platform for many many years to come. On this forum of
i-advocates,
you come and spread fear? Why would you do that?

And, does this mean that all along, you have been pushing EGL so people can
leave the platform? If you are not at IBM any more, then there does not
seem
to be as much anti-i rhetoric inside IBM, so maybe there is a future for
IBM
i now that the koolaid is no longer being drunk? If there is no one from
IBM
to tell us RPG is dead any more, maybe it has a glorious future!

Me and many of my peers are working with RPG applications, web enabling
them, service enabling them, and modernizing them. Your view is obviously
very narrow and does not reflect the real world.

I remain positive about the future of IBM i, and will remain a voice
against
the noise you continue to make.

Trevor


On 8/19/09 10:30 AM, "Bob Cancilla" <bob.cancilla@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Walden,

Been a long time, but I left IBM and am back in the mainstream. Sadly

the

iSeries aka IBM i Operating System is on its way to extinction IMHO and

in a

very short period of time. Read details in my blog:

Today the shift in technologies to Web 2.0 based technology, AJAX and
browser centric tooling around JavaScript, Google Widgets, Dojo, etc.
coupled with SOA or at least Web Service based applications are the
direction of today and our beloved old iSeries does not play well in the
space.

At IBM I was an advocate for EGL and still am. Java is great, but too

over

the top complex and time consuming for business application development.
EGL leverages Java and Web 2.0 but is fast and easy.

PHP is great but too complex and doesn't do enough. Its really no more

than

old Net.Data was, or CGIDEV2 is -- a bridge between programs or data on

the

server and HTML and JavaScript on the browser. You have to learn all of

the

technologies you are using.

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