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Re: RPG vaults COBOL, leaps 11 spots

Vern,

Heavens, folks on here still trying to justify RPG as being "up there" in the popular languages
with the #15 spot and that it has topped COBOL. Wow, what a language to top. Oh, well.

How are you guy? Hope your doing well. I know you sent me some pictures of your time here in Casa Grande but did you send all I might be interested in? I'm on under this email address for work purposes now since I left City of Tucson. YEAH!!! Personal email you have still works.

Take care,

Dave Odom
BT Consulting

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1. RE: QSECOFR (jim t)
2. Re: COMMON - the week's over... (Eduard Sluis)
3. RE: QSECOFR (Mark Walter)
4. Re: COMMON - the week's over... (Vern Hamberg)
5. Re: RPG vaults COBOL, leaps 11 spots (Vern Hamberg)
6. RE: [QUAR] RE: RPG vaults COBOL, leaps 11 spots (Mike Cunningham)


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message: 1
date: Thu, 7 May 2009 05:49:59 -0700 (PDT)
from: jim t <jim_t_59@xxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: QSECOFR


Is the resource a 2838 or a 2723?


Jim


--- On Thu, 5/7/09, Mark Walter <mwalter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Mark Walter <mwalter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: QSECOFR
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Received: Thursday, May 7, 2009, 6:39 PM
Got this resolved. Seems that when I restored the profiles,
the QSECOFR profile got restored with its original user ID
and password.

No biggie there, but now, when I'm trying to vary on
the Ethernet line, I'm getting a CPD27CD with a code of
0000200E: Protocol Conflict between IOA and line description
ETHLINE.

Any ideas. It's been a while since I've had to
rebuild something this old. It's a 170 BTW at V4R3.
I've verified the resource name is correct.

Thanks,

Mark

Mark Walter
Business to Business Data Integration Specialist
Certified IBM System i Specialist
Paragon Consulting Services, Inc
mwalter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
717-764-7909 ext. 126


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Walter
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 7:53 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: QSECOFR

That's what it won't accept.

Mark Walter
Business to Business Data Integration Specialist
Certified IBM System i Specialist
Paragon Consulting Services, Inc
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Chamara Withanachchi
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 7:44 AM
To: Midrange List
Subject: Re: QSECOFR

Try QSECOFR all caps


Regards,

Chamara Withanachchi
IBM Certified Power System Expert
RPG Programmer
(owner of www.rpgiv.info)

WWW.RPGIV.INFO
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Walter <mwalter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 07:40:51
To: Midrange Systems Technical
Discussion<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: QSECOFR


I have a client with a V4R3 machine that lost a drive. The
system was a vegetable, so I had to rebuild the system. The
problem I have is, since installing the CUM last night, the
system will not except the default QSECOFR password. Even
after resetting it in DST. Is the default system password
QSECOFR at V4R3?

Thanks,

Mark

Mark Walter
Business to Business Data Integration Specialist
Certified IBM System i Specialist
Paragon Consulting Services, Inc
mwalter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
717-764-7909 ext. 126

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message: 2
date: Thu, 7 May 2009 05:51:56 -0700 (PDT)
from: Eduard Sluis <eduard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: COMMON - the week's over...

Hey Guys!

Keep Up the Good Work.
We have just decided that we will attend the next Common (that will be the first time ever that we will do).

And please do not turn too negative because of the economic downtime.
Everything becomes cheaper because of it (even the flights to Common, The hotel stay at Common and perhaps even the price for our beer at Common).
So if you have a buck to spend....... Now is the best time to spend it!

Kind regards,
Eduard.



________________________________
From: "ChadB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ChadB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2009 8:24:14 AM
Subject: RE: COMMON - the week's over...


To all those that are being extremely negative about the attendance figures
at the Reno COMMON, please keep in mind that the # of attendees right now
was probably hammered into the ground by the current downturn.? My company
always sends 2-3 people to each COMMON and this year was the first that we
didn't.? In fact, no real travel/education/etc. until things get a bit
better.

I know that there has been an ongoing downward trend, but keep in mind that
right now things are BAD.? I think I read a statistic from the conference
that something like 40% of companies surveyed had put similar education
restrictions in place right now.? I don't think attendance at the Reno
conference can be thought of as anywhere near what it 'normally' might have
been.
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message: 3
date: Thu, 7 May 2009 09:08:49 -0400
from: Mark Walter <mwalter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: QSECOFR

2838-001.

Thanks,

Mark

Mark Walter
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Certified IBM System i Specialist
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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of jim t
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 8:50 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: QSECOFR


Is the resource a 2838 or a 2723?


Jim


--- On Thu, 5/7/09, Mark Walter <mwalter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Mark Walter <mwalter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: QSECOFR
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Received: Thursday, May 7, 2009, 6:39 PM
Got this resolved. Seems that when I restored the profiles,
the QSECOFR profile got restored with its original user ID
and password.

No biggie there, but now, when I'm trying to vary on
the Ethernet line, I'm getting a CPD27CD with a code of
0000200E: Protocol Conflict between IOA and line description
ETHLINE.

Any ideas. It's been a while since I've had to
rebuild something this old. It's a 170 BTW at V4R3.
I've verified the resource name is correct.

Thanks,

Mark

Mark Walter
Business to Business Data Integration Specialist
Certified IBM System i Specialist
Paragon Consulting Services, Inc
mwalter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
717-764-7909 ext. 126


-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark
Walter
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 7:53 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: QSECOFR

That's what it won't accept.

Mark Walter
Business to Business Data Integration Specialist
Certified IBM System i Specialist
Paragon Consulting Services, Inc
mwalter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
717-764-7909 ext. 126


-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Chamara Withanachchi
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 7:44 AM
To: Midrange List
Subject: Re: QSECOFR

Try QSECOFR all caps


Regards,

Chamara Withanachchi
IBM Certified Power System Expert
RPG Programmer
(owner of www.rpgiv.info)

WWW.RPGIV.INFO
Mob: +971 50 5698644
Tel: +971 6 5595887
chamaraw@xxxxxxxxxx
www.rpgiv.info
i want to be future ready. i want control. i want an i.


Sent from my BlackBerry(r) wireless device

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Walter <mwalter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 07:40:51
To: Midrange Systems Technical
Discussion<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: QSECOFR


I have a client with a V4R3 machine that lost a drive. The
system was a vegetable, so I had to rebuild the system. The
problem I have is, since installing the CUM last night, the
system will not except the default QSECOFR password. Even
after resetting it in DST. Is the default system password
QSECOFR at V4R3?

Thanks,

Mark

Mark Walter
Business to Business Data Integration Specialist
Certified IBM System i Specialist
Paragon Consulting Services, Inc
mwalter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
717-764-7909 ext. 126

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message: 4
date: Thu, 07 May 2009 08:08:25 -0500
from: Vern Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: COMMON - the week's over...

actually the attendance figures had gone up until this economic problem
- so there is hope that things will go up again as the economy recovers
- as it always does - disclaimer - historical data is not predictive ;-)

ChadB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
To all those that are being extremely negative about the attendance figures
at the Reno COMMON, please keep in mind that the # of attendees right now
was probably hammered into the ground by the current downturn. My company
always sends 2-3 people to each COMMON and this year was the first that we
didn't. In fact, no real travel/education/etc. until things get a bit
better.

I know that there has been an ongoing downward trend, but keep in mind that
right now things are BAD. I think I read a statistic from the conference
that something like 40% of companies surveyed had put similar education
restrictions in place right now. I don't think attendance at the Reno
conference can be thought of as anywhere near what it 'normally' might have
been.



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message: 5
date: Thu, 07 May 2009 08:10:43 -0500
from: Vern Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: RPG vaults COBOL, leaps 11 spots

LOL - spolsky has some good experience in the windows/m$ world - but he
has the utmost disdain for anything connected to ebcdic - narrow-minded
to some degree

as the 12-steppers say - take what you like and leave the rest (12-step
is not a dance for millipedes, btw)

Vern

Michael Ryan wrote:
Oh yeah...Joel on Software...sure...

On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 7:53 AM, Steve Richter <stephenrichter@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:


in regard to getting a guage on the levels of usage of programming
languages, stack overflow is worth a look.
http://stackoverflow.com/tags

It is a forum where people post software questions and others answer.
Questions are tagged by language, so you can see a summary of how many
questions are being asked for each tag.

it is relatively new and run by Joel Spolsky of Joel on Software fame
http://www.joelonsoftware.com/


On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Joe Pluta <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

I know I haven't been around a lot, and the last time I mentioned this
the trolls appeared, but those interested in the RPG language might find
this intriguing:

http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html

RPG is now the 15th most popular language. I guess it dropped to 26th
last month (as I've noted, I don't really keep track) but the surge to
15th is pretty astonishing, at least to me.

Even more astonishing, though, is the fact that since the beginning of
the year, the demand for RPG has skyrocketed, relatively speaking, and
continues to trend upward. Very interesting.

http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/paperinfo/tpci/RPG_(OS_400).html<http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/paperinfo/tpci/RPG_%28OS_400%29.html>

This in comparison to, say, Java, which is slowly trending down, and PHP
which is basically flat (and has been since about 2005). And while C#
still has an overall upward trend, it hasn't done very well in 2009.
Poor old Visual Basic has been on a pretty steep decline since 2008.

Hey, at least it's not Perl:

http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/paperinfo/tpci/Perl.html

Joe



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message: 6
date: Thu, 7 May 2009 09:13:55 -0400
from: Mike Cunningham <mike.cunningham@xxxxxxx>
subject: RE: [QUAR] RE: RPG vaults COBOL, leaps 11 spots

Lets run an analysis of the languages asked about on the midrange listserv and publish a web site showing those statistics. Bet that would show RPG as the #1 language in use today :)

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Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 8:34 AM
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Subject: [QUAR] RE: RPG vaults COBOL, leaps 11 spots
Importance: Low


in regard to getting a guage on the levels of usage of programming
languages, stack overflow is worth a look.
http://stackoverflow.com/tags

I think a site like this is quite biased toward a specific platform, in this case Windows (so .Net, C# are most popular). By looking at these figures you get a good overview of the popularity of tools/languages on the windows platform, but not in general. As more devs post about windows the more windows devs it attracts, etc. These "network effects" are quite strong. I don't think a typical RPG programmer would post questions to this specific site as it is more Windows centric. I believe experts-exchange is less biased. But the typical RPG programmer would first use google to find information, i suppose.


Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 07:53:06 -0400
Subject: Re: RPG vaults COBOL, leaps 11 spots
From: stephenrichter@xxxxxxxxx
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx

in regard to getting a guage on the levels of usage of programming
languages, stack overflow is worth a look.
http://stackoverflow.com/tags

It is a forum where people post software questions and others answer.
Questions are tagged by language, so you can see a summary of how many
questions are being asked for each tag.

it is relatively new and run by Joel Spolsky of Joel on Software fame
http://www.joelonsoftware.com/


On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Joe Pluta <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I know I haven't been around a lot, and the last time I mentioned this
the trolls appeared, but those interested in the RPG language might find
this intriguing:

http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html

RPG is now the 15th most popular language. I guess it dropped to 26th
last month (as I've noted, I don't really keep track) but the surge to
15th is pretty astonishing, at least to me.

Even more astonishing, though, is the fact that since the beginning of
the year, the demand for RPG has skyrocketed, relatively speaking, and
continues to trend upward. Very interesting.

http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/paperinfo/tpci/RPG_(OS_400).html

This in comparison to, say, Java, which is slowly trending down, and PHP
which is basically flat (and has been since about 2005). And while C#
still has an overall upward trend, it hasn't done very well in 2009.
Poor old Visual Basic has been on a pretty steep decline since 2008.

Hey, at least it's not Perl:

http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/paperinfo/tpci/Perl.html

Joe



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