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Sure.

Looking at this a bit closer, it is the 'Graph data' setting that
provides the historical job-level view via the Management Central
monitor Graph History (NOT the 'Detailed data' setting as stated
previously). The related objects are in QMGTC2:

WRKOBJ QMGTC2/*ALL *MGTCOL

On my production system, which is relatively busy, these objects
typically are not terribly large (~60 to 140MB apiece, one object per
day).

This can become a bit confusing, as there are two flavors of mgtcol
objects...one for Collection Services (i.e. the aforementioned 'Detailed
data' setting), which resides in QMPGDATA and can become quite sizable.
The other, in QMGTC2, serves the Management Central monitors and is
heavily summarized.

Default retention is 1 day for CS, 1 hour for MC.

Steve




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message: 1
date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:02:08 -0500
from: rob@xxxxxxxxx
subject: RE: No detailed data is available for the selected collection

Thank you. That fits. This explains why I can see the list of jobs
that were active the evening of January 31'st on one machine but not on
the other. These retention policies match with the ability (or lack
thereof) to see this.

Can I see what objects contain this retention data so I can see the
ramifications of kicking them up from 1 day to 7 days?

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From:
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To:
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Date:
02/02/2009 02:16 PM
Subject:
RE: No detailed data is available for the selected collection
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Check your Collection Services retention policies. From iNav (either
Endpoint Systems or My Connections):

-Expand the system in question
-Configuration and Service
-Right-click Collection Services
-Properties

In the Collection Retention Period section of the resulting dialogue
box, check the settings of Detailed data and Graph data. Guessing one
of the two (or both) are set prohibitively low. Pretty sure it is the
retained Detailed data (the mgtcol object) that provides graph detail.

You can also check retention of the mgtcol object via Go Perform, opt
#2, opt #2.


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message: 3
date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 10:44:45 -0500
from: rob@xxxxxxxxx
subject: No detailed data is available for the selected collection
point.

I went into iNav Management Central Monitors and opened up graph
history.
I can get pretty lines and all for a previous time period. However, on
one system when I click on the points to get details I keep getting "No
detailed data is available for the selected collection point." I'd like

to know what was running at that particular time. I can pick the points

for other systems during that time period and get the detailed data.

Trying DSPLOG would be an exercise in futility. You'd have to spread it

far and wide (think NEP) to look for jobs and match up their starts and
ends during that time. Also that wouldn't show possible system tasks
that
went hog wild.

Rob Berendt

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