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Why not, you started it, Paul? All I can say about CUDS 2 and 3 is take a good nap; you won't get any sleep that night! And well, worth it. As an example, I first met Jon Paris at a CUDS 2 session when he was still with IBM. Not that he remembers that, but I do; thought I knew a lot until I listened to him. Learned enough that night to cost justify the trip.

As previously mentioned by you, Rob, Don, et al, there is more to a COMMON Conference than just attending sessions, while excellent in themselves. Making friends and professional contacts can pay tremendous dividends. At my first conference (1983) I met people (Charlie M., just to drop a name) that immediately became resources and friends. One doesn't build these contacts up by going to one conference, though going to every conference isn't necessary either.

An unscientific observation is that most people do not engage in these extra-curricular activities. Even if they go to CUDS, they just sit around nursing their beer. Such a waste.

John is right that there is a lot of repetition from conference-to-conference. Which is, for me, at least, a good thing because there are always conflicts so "next year" I'll hit what I missed "this year." Plus, for example, Susan once asked me why I was in one of her sessions again; because I didn't get a chance to use it and wanted a refresher.

And as an added plus, COMMON always gives David (if he remembers to ask!) a "Midrange" table at Ask The Experts Night at CUDS. Kinda scary and somewhat unnerving to actually meet some of the people that I "hear" here daily.

For sys admins, Dave, the people (that I know) to cozy up to are Larry Bolhuis and Pete Massiello. Larry even sells his soul to you if you bid high enough at the Foundation's Silent Auction.

Jerry C. Adams
IBM System i Programmer/Analyst
B&W Wholesale
office: 615-995-7024
email: jerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Nelson
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 3:38 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: A user/admin asks if COMMON is worth it

Nope. That would be at CUDS 2. S/38 and S/36 conversations are at CUDS 3.

Jerry Adams can fill you in. I'm not sayin' nuttin'

Paul Nelson
Office 512-392-2577
Cell 708-670-6978
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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roger Harman
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 3:22 PM
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Subject: RE: A user/admin asks if COMMON is worth it

CUDS? Isn't that where you go to talk about AS/400's?? <VBG>


nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 01/29/2009 1:15:23 PM >>>
It'll always be CUDS to me. Sorry, Trevor.

Paul Nelson
Office 512-392-2577
Cell 708-670-6978
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of rob@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 2:55 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: A user/admin asks if COMMON is worth it

It depends on who is paying, me or the boss. Right now money is too
tight
at home and I feel that splurging is buying my own gas to go to the
local
user group meetings. This year the boss won't fork out the money for
COMMON. Heck, he was supposed to go to Lotusphere for the first time
anyone's ever gone from here (and Lotus is real big here). Forfeited
the
week prior and got back what money he could. Just too tight this year.

But normally I could tell you things that I put to use right after the
conference that covered the expense.

Our first network was drawn up on a bar napkin at CUDS (now called
iSocial
or some such thing).

COMMON and the IBM Power technical conference rank up there at the tops.
I
feel that many of the others are pretty locations wrapped up in a
conference to justify the expense to work.

Rob Berendt

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