Because of the changes in product direction over the past several years,
and the changing/confusing nature of the bundling/licensing, our management
has decided to avoid RDi for now and instead update to WDSC 7.1 and avoid
the whole mess as long as we can. The perception at the customer level is
that they're getting stuck paying for the new version of something we
already have the ability to use within WDSC.
"Paul Nelson"
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To quote Charlie Brown: "Good Grief"
My customers only want PDM, and the ability to compile various flavors of
RPG code and an occasional CL program.
Nobody seems to be able to give me a price for that.
Paul Nelson
Office 512-392-2577
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Subject: IBM Tweaks i Development Tool Bundle
I knew it had been change yet again, but couldn't find the details. This
was in a e-newsletter I receive weekly:
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As Rumored, IBM Tweaks i Development Tool Bundle
Published: November 24, 2008
by Timothy Prickett Morgan
A little less than a month ago, I told you that IBM was rumored to be
thinking about tweaking its Rational tool bundle for the System i and Power
Systems i entry machines. And lo and behold, the very precise rumor that I
told you about--which was conveyed to me from a business partner, who got
the information from an IBMer in the know--has indeed come to pass.
Specifically, IBM made yet another announcement of the rejiggering of the
compiler and related toolset last week for its smaller i platforms. Because
you don't have the entire System i and Power System i product lines
memorized, the discounted bundle that IBM offers is for 1/2-core Power5+
System i 525 user-priced machines (that's 9407-M25 boxes with processor
features 6761, 6762, 6763, and 6766) and two-core and four-core Power6
Power
Systems i 520 machines (that's 8203-E4A machines with processor features
9635, 9636, 9637, 9638, 9639, 9640, and 9643). The Rational development
toolset for i 6.1 for these machines now includes not only the ILE compiler
set (ILE RPG, ILE RPG *PRV, ILE COBOL, ILE COBOL *PRV, ILE C, ILE C++, IXLC
for C/C++), but also all the bits in the WebSphere Development Studio stack
for i 6.1, which means the so-called heritage compilers (that's the S/36
Compatible RPG II, the S/38 Compatible RPG III, RPG/400, S/36 Compatible
COBOL, S/38 Compatible COBOL, and OPM COBOL) as well as the Application
Development ToolSet.
Now, here's the old switcheroo. The bundled software on these machines now
includes Rational Developer for i for SOA Construction V7.1, which
implements the Enterprise Generation Language (EGL) that IBM is trying to
sell for SOA-style applications. The bundle does not include IBM Rational
Developer for i V7.1. You now have to buy that separately.
The way the bundling now works, companies that buy these machines are
entitled to have three users for the features in WebSphere Development
Studio for i 6.1 and Rational Developer for i for SOA Construction V7.1.
Above that, you presumably have to pay for extra users. Also, starting
November 25, if you remove any of the components, you have to pay for each
at full price. In other words, you have to take all the bits in the new
bundle, and if you want the Rational Developer for i, you have to pay for
it
no matter what.
It is hard to imagine IBM making this more complicated. But, then again,
IBM
seems to have an infinite imagination for this sort of complexity. So don't
make the mistake of underestimating the folks in Software Group.
You can try to figure this all out for yourself in the IBM announcement
letter. And, by the way, forget about pricing. IBM doesn't provide
customers
with pricing to customers in announcement letters very much any more.
Here's my advice, IBM. *CHARGE A LOW, FAIR PRICE FOR THE COMPILER AND
DEVELOPMENT TOOL COMPONENTS. LET PEOPLE BUY WHAT THEY WANT. TAKE THE MONEY.
MAKE THE CUSTOMER HAPPY.* This isn't hard. Explaining this to 200,000
customers every couple of months is, and it is expensive, too.
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Jeff Crosby
UniPro FoodService/Dilgard
P.O. Box 13369
Ft. Wayne, IN 46868-3369
260-422-7531
www.dilgardfoods.com
The opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily the opinion of my
company. Unless I say so.
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