Re: Windows on an iSeries? -- MIDRANGE-L

There is a reasonably simple file level backup.
Name the file shares you want file level backups for in a source file text member in library QUSRSYS file QAZLCSAVL. Create a member named the same as your Integrated PC server name and list (one per line) the file shares you want saved. In this example assume the integrated PC server is named DISCOVERY:

SAV DEV(('/QSYS.LIB/' *TCAT &DEV *TCAT '.DEVD')) +
OBJ(('/QNTC/DISCOVERY/*')) SUBTREE(*ALL) +
OUTPUT(*PRINT) LABEL('SAV_DISCOVRYfiles')
RCVMSG MSGQ(*PGMQ) MSGTYPE(*LAST) RMV(*NO) +

See:
http://www-912.ibm.com/s_dir/slkbase.nsf/1ac66549a21402188625680b0002037e/bfa3f61d7c58de8186256a150078c0c2

http://www-912.ibm.com/s_dir/slkbase.nsf/1ac66549a21402188625680b0002037e/ca9f3067c1c4bf09862568f5004cc8a4

http://www-912.ibm.com/s_dir/slkbase.nsf/1ac66549a21402188625680b0002037e/d54803876da9dc40862568fc007669e6

Neil Palmer, Cambridge, Ontario, Canada

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--- On Tue, 11/11/08, Jim Steil <steil@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Jim Steil <steil@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Windows on an iSeries?
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Received: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 3:54 PM
Michael

After setting a number of these up for various companies
(quite a few
years ago) I finally stopped because the benefits were not
worth the
drawbacks:

* limited upgrade options
* no simple file-level backup (still had to purchase PC
backup/recovery
software)
* disk is a lot cheaper for PC Servers (even good disk)
that for the i
* not ubiquitous - you always had to do things in just the
right way to
get it to work. Not always the way that the same task
would be
performed on a 'standard' windows server box.

Some things may have changed since my experience with this,
but I won't
go down that road again. Just my $.02...

-Jim

Michael Naughton wrote:

I'm looking or people who know more than I do, so

of course I came right over here :-). My company is looking
to consolidate its windows servers, and I ran across this
article:

http://www.infordata.net/inforweb.static/documents/newsletter/ISSE1007.pdf

that makes it sound as if we could do it all on our

iSeries (we've got a model 9406-520). From the article,
it looked as if we could

* set up several windows servers using the Integrated

xSeries Server cards

* dynamically allocate disk space among the iSeries

and the various windows servers

* use our existing tape backup system to back up the

windows data at the same time we're backing up our
iSeries data

Then we talked to our BP, who said it's not that

simple. According to them,

** the integrated server cards aren't recommended

because they're hard to upgrade, and we'd be better
off with the Integrated xSeries Adapters (and some boxes to
put them in)

** the disk would need to be split between the windows

servers and the iSeries, and we couldn't just
dynamically shift it around

** we'd need a separate LPAR to handle the windows

stuff

** we'd be better off with a separate backup

system for the window stuff

All of which makes it look a LOT less worth it, but

I'm not convinced -- hence my question. Does anyone have
experience with either of these environments? Is it as great
as the article makes it sound, or is our BP closer to the
mark? If we're looking to

centralize storage, management, and backup, is this a

good option, or we better off just going with a windows SAN
(the other option)?

Thanks very much for your help,

Mike Naughton
Senior Programmer/Analyst
Judd Wire, Inc.
124 Turnpike Road
Turners Falls, MA 01376
413-863-4357 x444
mnaughton@xxxxxxxxxxxx

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