RE: Jobs running without a program stack

Good move. The 5 was less than desirable. A client of mine couldn't get
anyone to take it off their hands, so they gave it to a guy who was building
an artificial reef in Hawaii. Now it sleeps with the fishes.

Paul Nelson
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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Willenborg
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The first IBM computer I worked on was a 1620 using SPS. First S/38 was a
model 8. We were going to go with a Model 5 but upgraded to the 8 before
delivery

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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Schollenberger
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Subject: RE: Jobs running without a program stack

Did that once with a Model 15D (and, if you know what that means, you

are old).

First IBM system I ever worked on as a high school co-op student in
1980.
So you don't have to be that old (45) to remember the 15D.


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Sounds more like Al used it as a heater. Did that once with a Model 15D
(and, if you know what that means, you are old).

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Ingvaldson, Scott wrote:

You used a 595 as a thermostat?!

What will those guys in Roch. think of next?

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This sounds like a caper for IBM support. 50 batch jobs is a lot, but

maybe not for a 595. The only time I have used a 595 was when testing
V5R4 on a 570, and we used it to regulate the temperature in the
freezing computer lab in Rochester.

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Hi All

One of our customers is experiencing a strange problem with some batch

jobs running in a subsystem. The subsystem allows up to 50 jobs to
run and there are currently 35 or so showing when we do a WRKACTJOB.

A number of the jobs are in status EOJ and have been for the last 10
hours. There is no CPU usage happening on these jobs. If I do a
WRKJOB on one of the jobs with a status of EOJ and then try to display

the call stack there is a pause of between 1-2 minutes and then

nothing shows.

If I then do a WRKJOB on a job with a status of RUN that shows a
function of PGM-xxxxxxxx the same thing happens, there is a pause and
nothing showing in the call stack.

There are no untoward entries in the joblog, and if I try to work with

any locks for the job the screen just hangs.

They are running v5r3 with PTF C6178530 installed on a model 595.
Everything I've found on Google points to PTFs that have long since
been superseded or microcode package GA1. I believe that being on a
595 they should be on microcode package GA3, but don't know how or if
I can confirm that.

Has anybody seen this type of thing before or got any suggestions as
to what could be causing this?

Thanks

Jonathan


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