RE: AW: Another Midrange Forum Falls Over and Can't Get Up

Interesting link on Agile Testing - thanks! Sounds like a great idea
but, like many other companies, we could not support this method:

"Since working increments of the software is released very often
in agile software development there is also a need to test often."

If your company has been thru any of the "down sizing", "resizing",
"right sizing" philosophies and current personnel are now doing
the work of 2-3 people, time is a luxury they can't afford :(
Unless, of course, the new application is going to eliminate a
warm body...

I was being a little facetious with regard to my "windows" remark <grin>
I will admit, that I have seen *some* windows-based projects go very
well as far as application development and deployment is concerned.
But they seem to be the exception rather than the rule ;-)

Terry

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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Luis Colorado
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:39 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: AW: Another Midrange Forum Falls Over and Can't Get Up

Well... it's not really related to "windows based," it's just
plain poor implementation... maybe lack of knowledge,
experience, money, or time. In any case, it's bad, but it
happens everywhere, regardless of the platform.

Good QA practices are not old dinosaur stuff... indeed, have
you looked in the recent practices about test-driven
development and agile development and testing? I am
impressed. I confess that I don't use them (yet) in my shop,
but it actually goes beyond the typical approach (making
somebody test your stuff by playing with it in a safe testing
environment). Here are a couple links to modern testing
practices: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agile_testing and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_testing


-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Winchester Terry
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 6:14 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: AW: Another Midrange Forum Falls Over and
Can't Get Up

As just another "old timer" who believes in doing things
the right way, I couldn't agree more.

In my experience, this sounds like a typical "windows based"
project implementation ;-)

Terry

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Pluta
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 8:51 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: AW: Another Midrange Forum Falls Over and Can't Get Up

I said:

But the database errors on the System i Network site are
nothing but bad programming. To have a fatal database

error in a production

site - that's simply unacceptable.

And right now, two days later, the forums are still down, although
currently they are down while they "test new functionality". IMHO,
that's the sort of thing you do *before* you put code into
production, but that's my silly old-school dinosaur mentality again.

Joe

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