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I always submit the STROBJCVN to batch, then tell the full save to start up
a few hours later.

Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 512-392-2577
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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pete Massiello
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:43 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Wisdom of just a SAVSYS after an upgrade

Don't forget that the most important aspect of the full system save is that
it touches every object, and that would insure that each object is converted
at first touch, if there was a requirement to do an object conversion. This
has been the case in most upgrades over the last few releases. So, I would
again say that the full backup is the best, for reasons beyond just the
ability to restore. Your performance on Monday morning will probably be
much better if you do a full system save.

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces+pmassiello-ml=itechsol.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces+pmassiello-ml=itechsol.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Pete Massiello
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:36 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Wisdom of just a SAVSYS after an upgrade

Full save is the best if you can do it. Otherwise the minimum you need to do
(MSUT DO) is a SAVSYS, SAVLIB IBM, and an SAV (of the IBM directory).

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of rob@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:22 PM
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Wisdom of just a SAVSYS after an upgrade

Skipping a lot of details but our basic steps to doing a release upgrade
is:
Save entire system
apply ptfs perm, IPL
do the upgrade
Do a full system save.

The boss is wondering if we could just do a SAVSYS at the end. My
argument is that this isn't a S/36, or even an old AS/400. That a release
upgrade puts stuff into all sorts of libraries, directories, etc that a
SAVSYS just doesn't begin to cover. Including, but not limited to data
conversions in QUSRSYS. Then, there's the little things like object
conversions, etc that sometimes happen with release upgrades.

If the goal is to be able to recover, do the full system save. Otherwise
you're stuck with the save PRIOR to the OS upgrade.

So who passes the whizz quiz: the boss or I?

Rob Berendt

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