Re: system p announcement

I used to even flowchart every program. Spent a week on one once; desk checked it with a colleague; we found a couple of bugs; coded straight from the flowchart and it never burped (3000+ lines, S/3 RPG II). But even did it for "simple" programs back then.

These days I don't do that too often, but every once in awhile it still comes in handy. But I'll still do a rough sketch (modules, functions and relationships mostly). I guess I'm just used to doing most of my corrections at the design stage, not the debug stage (though there's some of that, too .-) ).
I've seen the green-haired kids write programs from GUI IDE's where you just drag and drop objects onto a palette; even used one awhile back myself. But I still laid out the process on paper before I started draggin' and droppin'. The GHK's all seem to pull it out of their heads straight to the palette (and usually get it right, mind you). I'm just not that nimble; must be the arthritis. Or the training I went through 30+ years ago. Old habits, yada yada yada.

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Michael Ryan wrote:

Just a different style than what I use - neither Neanderthalic or
Jetsonic. I used to teach RPG at a community college. The other RPG
instructor was in the Peace Corps way back when, and was stationed in
Africa. He used to teach RPG to the folks there...on paper - he didn't
have a computer. He would assign a problem, they would write the code
on paper, and he would 'compile' it and tell them what their output
would be.

On Nov 8, 2007 7:46 AM, Jerry Adams <jerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Yeah. Kinda Neanderthalic, huh?

It's kinda funny, too, that, when I was writing programs for the S/3, I
usually wrote them in what we called pseudo-code first. Then took that
to RPG II fixed-format. So, for me, free-format RPG is, historically, a
step backwards! .-)

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Michael Ryan wrote:

You write them on paper before keying them in to the editor?

On Nov 8, 2007 7:33 AM, Jerry Adams <jerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Now, Walden, it appears that you jumped to the conclusion that I don't
use WDSc. Actually I do (though I still use SEU for CL's and OCL (!).
I just keep forgetting about the auto-complete feature. I think the
problem (or whatever) is that I'm still one of those people that
actually write their programs before typing them, even if they are short
and sweet. I worked with a guy several years ago that could (and did)
key programs directly from his brain to his fingers to SEU. They almost
always worked; I ain't that good.


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Walden H. Leverich wrote:

But I get real cranky if typing those object names when keying a

program

causes me to miss my morning coffee. Just don't see it as a

disadvantage;

been dealing with it for way too many years.

That's because your IDE (SEU <G>) doesn't support auto-complete. When
you're coding in an ide that supports autocomplete typing long names
usually only takes 3 to 6 keystrokes anyway, and it's a hell of a lot
more readable.

-Walden

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