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Makes me think that you really have to ask where a product runs. Runs
on the System i isn't safe because that could be anything. ..
Makes me think that you really have to ask where a product runs. Runs
on the System i isn't safe because that could be anything. Runs on
i5/os could still be a cover up for PASE. Years ago when PASE first
came out I swear I could remember multiple people from IBM saying that
PASE was an area to allow X based vendors an area to migrate to and that
it was intended to ease the migration to then OS/400...........
While the release of cool products is up for debate there is definitely
a commitment to i5/os. Lots of cool things coming out of Rochester.
IBM has definitely heard that customers want i5/os solutions. I'm sure
there are cool new products being implemented on i5/os I just haven't
heard of many.
FYI - about a year ago I asked for a WEB based (java, j2ee, etc.) help
desk package on this list. I wasn't real happy with what I could find
on the market. www.livetime.com and you will see a J2EE product that
supports i5/os and db2 for i5/os. Hopefully we will be implemented
before the end of this year.
Michael Crump
Manager, Computing Services
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I also think it's disappointing that it takes some thinking to find the
last cool new product that didn't require PASE to be installed on your
i5.
I am so glad that Domino didn't settle for that crippled environment.
If
they had, there wouldn't have been nearly as many iSeries sold as a kick
butt Domino platform.
I wonder if IBM had to do it over again, if they would settle for PASE.
Probably.
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RE: Q/400 to Web Query
Yeah, and you can't use *LIBL on your queries, moving them from
system-to-system is also a PITA.
QU2 is not an i5/OS application, it's a ported Unix application that has
some very obvious deficits.
It just shows that IBM does no longer commit to i5/OS and the System i
platform. I mean, QU2 is obviously broken in many ways, which could've
been ruled out with even the most simple QA.
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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Crosby
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 10:14 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: Q/400 to Web Query
All,
Here's some interesting items.
(1) The marketing of Web Query ("WQ") says you can import existing Q/400
queries to Web Query. That's technically true, but it's not 'the truth,
the
whole truth, and nothing but the truth" so to speak.
WQ, during design, accesses files via metadata, not by actually looking
at
the database. Before you can query a file, you must create the metadata
for
that file. WQ then uses the metadata when designing the
report/graph/whatever. Fair enough.
When you import a Q/400 query (and I do mean 'import', not 'convert')
you
have available only what fields were actually used in the Q/400 query,
not
all fields in the file. You cannot add any additional fields from any
of
the files named in the original Q/400 query. WQ sees only the imported
metadata of the Q/400 query. Essentially, the imported query becomes a
file
to WQ.
(2) Another difference in WQ vs Q/400: Once a query has been designed,
you
can't change the file used. In Q/400 if you had 2 (or more) files with
the
same record format, you could change the file name and it would still
run
fine. Not with WQ. There is no way to do that. If you're careful
about
how you load metadata, you _can_ get WQ to use the library list at
runtime.
Or you go direct to the metadata and start changing. I have a DCR open
with
IBM to allow the file to be named at runtime.
Caveat emptor.
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