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And you seem to forget that not every shop has SQL.uses.
I never said it was a modern language, I simply said the cycle has its
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On Behalf Of Trevor Perrystop
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 2:21 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: RPG Cycle (was: RPG IV Certification)
Sharon,
You can do most of your cycle programs with one line of SQL. You should
comparing the cycle to anything else - it is not a modern language.wrote:
Trevor
On 8/20/07 3:16 PM, "Sharon Wintermute" <SWintermute@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
know
You aren't the only teacher around. I have taught classes as well so I
me.better.
As to languages, I know far more than just RPG so don't try to lecture
say
I can do in 3 lines in the cycle that takes more in non-cycle.
Try sticking to the old saying "if you can't say something nice, don't
Ianything at all."
Sharon
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On Behalf Of Trevor Perry
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 2:11 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: RPG Cycle (was: RPG IV Certification)
Sharon,
I used to teach a class called RPG for Performance and Maintainability.
thank mealways had programmers who were Java or COBOL programmers who would
weeks,for giving a session that they could understand. Some reality, eh?
In this world where a programmer can learn a new language in a few
syntax -why would we not expect a programmer to understand a program written in
another language? Most differences between languages boil down to
toother than the cycle, probably :-) To say that a programmer should be
limited to one language - now you are not in the real world.
And the beauty of the NEW techniques is that they work, they are easier
newmaintain, and improve responsiveness of the IT organization. Who says a
Usingtechnique would require 80 lines of code over 3 for a cycle program?
MUCHILE with the ability to plug in modules, I expect most new programs are
theshorter than your old RPG - cycle or not.
I started with the cycle - 25 years ago. I maintain programs that use
tell mecycle - for most of those 25 years and also in 2007. If you want to
wrote:to shut up, you may want to try another approach.
Trevor
On 8/20/07 3:01 PM, "Sharon Wintermute" <SWintermute@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
obvious
Trevor,
I usually don't respond to this kind of rhetoric, but it is quite
reducesyou
do not have a clue what reality is all about.
The idea that a COBOL programmer should be able to maintain RPG is not
valid.
That's like saying a Java programmer can maintain PL/1.
The beauty of some of the old techniques is THAT THEY WORK.
Writing code in 3 lines versus 80 is definitely a plus. This also
techniqueprogram size, memory requirements, etc. You should use whatever
usuallygives the best result "for that application". Sometimes its cycle,
listit
is not.
Since you plainly don't know how or why to use the cycle stay quiet.
Sharon Wintermute
PS. Under 50 and have used the cycle.
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