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The HMC support group at IBM is very good at explaining these concepts (and
the specifics needed to get to/from different versions). In particular, if
you can get a guy in that group named Scott Goodson on the phone - he was
a presenter at Common and gave some good sessions on firmware and HMC
management both. The last time I called in for support I was lucky enough
to end up with him on the phone.





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Thanks Pete,

This is a bit over my head for now, but I do need to get an
understanding of the HMC, PTF Applies/Levels and all. I will look in the
archives, but any other suggestions will be appreciated. TIA.


-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pete Massiello
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 5:15 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: New version of HMC.

Larry,

When you are HMC managed, your FSP gets its updates from the
HMC.
When you are OS Managed, your FSP gets its updates from when you load MH
PTFS into OS/400 lic (5722-999). So, your FSP looks right for HMC
Mananged.

The only comment is that it looks like you don't normally
apply
your
previous PTFs permentantly before you load the next Cumulative Set of
PTFs.
Now, we had some discussion on this a few years back, but I always Apply
my
previous PTFs permanently before loading the next cume. This way, if I
load
an MF type of PTF that is in error or causing a problem, I have the A
side
which is the same as I was running right before I loaded these new PTFs.
Plus, I get a lot of space back.

Pete Massiello
iTech Solutions



-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Burns, Bryan
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 2:45 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: New version of HMC.

Pete,
Thanks Pete but I jumped the gun and didn't realize that our load source
A
is not the same as our flash perm. Here're all our flashcodes:
DISPLAY/ALTER/DUMP
RUNNING MACRO: FLASHLEVELS
LS FLASH SYNC ENABLED.
HMC MANAGED
BASE LEVEL:
SIDE DATE/TIME MI KEYWORD PTFS (V5R3M0)
------------- ------------- ---------- ---------------
MEMORY 20060505/1020 SF240_219 MH00678
FLASH P 20060505/1020 SF240_219 MH00678
FLASH T 20060505/1020 SF240_219 MH00678
LOAD SOURCE A 20041215/1425 SF222_075 MH00199
LOAD SOURCE B 20060505/1020 SF240_219 MH00678

Any comments?
Thanks,
Bryan

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Pete Massiello
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 11:48 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: New version of HMC.


Bryan,

Just do not upgrade the HMC to V7, as you need to be on
SF240_299 or
higher for that.

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Burns, Bryan
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 12:34 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Cc: Dorsey, Tim; Dunne, Patrick
Subject: RE: New version of HMC.

Pete,
Thanks. This was very helpful to me as well, allaying some concern I
had
about our FSP level. Not that we're planning to upgrade, but it's nice
to
know that we're ahead of the curve being at SP240_219.
Bryan Burns
ECHO, Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Pete Massiello
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 11:18 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: New version of HMC.


It basically says that both the Temp and Perm of the FSP have
01SF225_096,
and that is also the code that is running. This is pretty got dated
code,
as we discussed in a previous email.

Then inside of LIC (of OS/400) you have PTF MF00678 loaded
into
the
A side (you would see this with DSPPTF 5722-999 as Perm applied). Then
on
the B side you have PTF MH00948, and if we did a DSPPTF 5722-999 we
would
see this as Temp applied.

If you decide to upgrade to V5R4, you would have a problem, as
the
FSP would need to be at min level of 01SF235_160, and you are only at
01SF225_096.

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Bipes
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 11:21 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: New version of HMC.

Thank you Here is the output. How exactly do I read this?
DISPLAY/ALTER/DUMP
Running macro: FLASHLEVELS

LS Flash Sync Enabled.
HMC MANAGED
Base Level:

Side Date/Time MI Keyword PTFs (V5R3M0)
------------- ------------- ---------- -------------
Memory 20050311/1416 SF225_096 MH00248
Flash P 20050311/1416 SF225_096 MH00248
Flash T 20050311/1416 SF225_096 MH00248
Load Source A 20060505/1020 SF240_219 MH00678
Load Source B 20070301/1655 SF240_298 MH00948


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