Re: OK, I surrender -- Abandoning Vista and going back to XP -- MIDRANGE-L

shouldn't this be moved over to PC-TECH? most (if not all) the developer
issues mentioned fall more under the realm of PC development tools etc.

but to echo some comments made earlier...i never jump on a new version of
anything M$ releases until it has been over a year since the initial
release date.

Thanks,
Tommy Holden

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Re: OK, I surrender -- Abandoning Vista and going back to XP

I think the OP's stance is of a developer rather than a user. Vista
seems to be acceptable from a user perspective, but may not be ready
for prime time from a developer perspective.

On 8/6/07, Jack Derham <derhamj@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Sorry to hear that you are surrendering to forces against Vista. I have

been

using it for six months now and have grown to enjoy it. Once the

automatic

updates got out into place in late June and July, I could even install

WDSC.

Never had any problems with iSeries Access. Did have to change the

defaults

setting for TCP/IP so that I could network with my other XP machines.

Make sure that you have installed all of the updates from M$ and also

PTFs

from IBM.
Regards,
Jack Derham
Direct Systems, Inc.

P.S. Peter from Belgium suggested that he found a way to run Vista in XP
default mode. Have not tried it myself but I sure his thread would be in

the

archives.

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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of albartell
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 7:59 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: OK, I surrender -- Abandoning Vista and going back to XP

Maybe you would like to comment on imho.midrange.com as I am sure other

professionals would like to hear your results and reasons?

I wasn't planning on moving to Vista for at least a year after it came

out,

but I may have just delayed it even longer :-)

Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com

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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Walden H. Leverich
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 11:52 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: OK, I surrender -- Abandoning Vista and going back to XP

OK, yes, it's true, me, the MS-lover of the midrange groups have

abandoned

Vista after two months and I'm headed back to XP (man am I glad I moved

Vista w/a new hard-drive, just swap and reboot. :) ) As an end-user,

Vista

is absolutely great. I like the Aero interface (2.13Ghz w/2Gig), the
integrated search is wonderful, you get used to UAC and the overall feel

fine. If I wasn't a developer I wouldn't have a complaint.

However, as a developer, there are just too many things that aren't

quite

baked yet -- and not MS things, but 3rd party integration. Our .net

profiler

has issued with IIS7, as does cold-fusion. We need to run a number of

VPN

clients for our clients, and many of them aren't Vista-ready, and some

of my

power-tools aren't up to tweaking Vista yet.
Plus, the inability to change stuff in "program files" as joe-user

causes

many apps issues.

Office 2007 on the other hand... awesome! I've got O2K3 on my XP box,

and

I'll be upgrading to O2K7 as soon as I get a chance.

Why am I posting this??? Mostly because we're all developers, and many

of us

are PC-based developers. If you're a pure-iSeries person, and you're

running

just an emulator to get to the iSeries, go a head, move to Vista. But if
you're a PC developer, especially if you're using IIS a lot, don't go

yet.

-Walden

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(Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)

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