RE: Looking for examples of modern i5/OS applications

["Lukas Beeler" <l.beeler@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

> but I think you have
> over-engineered an i5/OS "modern" solution, and placed restrictions or
> design requirements that are too narrow.

No disagreement here. I just typed things I would see as "modern" in an
application.

> Things like "no monospaced fonts" are more personal as a requirement

Monospaced fonts on forms make it look old, even if you use decent
overlays. Of course this is my personal opinion.

Your list is way better than mine - I'd be interested in seeing an
application like that.

> I think this is ~your~ approach to designing a "modern"

Na, I don't design anything, I'm nowhere near development or software
design.

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Trevor Perry
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 5:37 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Looking for examples of modern i5/OS applications

Lukas,

For the most part, you have identified a decent design, 

IMO, such a thing that meets your list does not exist. I would suggest
that
there are some solutions out there that are as "modern", but are
designed
differently. For the most part, the companies with i5/OS that I have
seen
are in the process of "modernizing" - for example, refacing and
repurposing
their applications. In these cases, the business and database layers run
in
i5/OS, but the presentation layer could be browser or .NET based.

I think you should be careful in providing design guidelines that are a
little too much personal preference. Things like "no monospaced fonts"
are
more personal as a requirement - while rare, these can be used
effectively
in a modern interface. Most programmers will use them to solve the wrong
problem - but I would suggest that is too limiting for a comparison of
"modern" i5/OS solutions.

Ultimately, I think this is ~your~ approach to designing a "modern"
application, and I would expect there would be many people that utilize
a
different approach, but are just as "modern".

Maybe you could take it to a higher level...

1) n-tier development
    - DB2 database on i5/OS
    - application layer on i5/OS
    - rich presentation layer
2) Full use of DB2 SQL database
    - triggers
    - constraints
    - commitment control
    - fully relational
3) Application layer
    - ILE
    - Reduced maintenance
4) rich user experience
    - rich controls
    - fully integrated with desktop applications
    - information analysis tools
    - increased user productivity
    - consistent, easy to use
    - Web 2.0 for user interaction

I am sure this list can be improved, since it was off the top of my
head.

Trevor




On 7/21/07 2:45 AM, "Lukas Beeler" <l.beeler@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>  
>
> I'm looking for some examples of modern, nicely done i5/OS
applications.
>  
>
> I've seen several examples of things gone horribly wrong in the i5/OS
> world, and I haven't found applications where I would say that
> "everything was done right". So I'm looking for some positive
examples.
>  
>
> What I (roughly) expect:
>
>  
>
> *         Modern user interface (Web 2.0, or a graphical client)
>
> *         Nice output forms (No monospaced fonts, fully graphical
forms,
> graphical form designer)
>
> *         Full use of DB/2 functionality (Triggers, Commitment
Control,
> etc.)
>
> *         Tight integration into i5/OS - must be an application that
> runs natively on i5/OS
>
> *         Business Logic must be running on i5/OS (not fat client apps
> which use i5/OS as a DB server)
>
> *         Client software should be written in a modern language (.NET
> or Java)
>
> *         If Client software requires configuration, it must be
> centrally manageable (i.E. using Windows Group Policies)
>
> *         Integration into other commonly used business application
like
> Microsoft Office or Microsoft Exchange
>
>  
>
> Does such a thing exist?
>
>  
>
>