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RE: Create!Form migration

Sannan,

Yes, there are no more Create!Print specific writers on the iSeries for
your network attached printers. Instead just use a remote writer and
tell Create!Print about it. It will add an exit program to the outq
that does the transformation to Postscript. It's actually cleaner and
easier than the old method of having third party writers to handle the
outqs. This makes it easy for any printer on your LAN or WAN to be a
Create!Print printer.

Client Access attached printers are handled with an exit program also.

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sannan Solberg
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 11:35 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Create!Form migration

I think I was quoting what I have heard from others about 2.7 possibly
being the "last" iSeries based version so I'm not firm on that. As for
the PC server side of things, it is required if you plan to use any of
the CreateEmail/Fax/etc products outside of the regular printing of
things. From what I gathered, it appears there is quite a bit of "new
setup/config" stuff to do on the iSeries side of things (no longer any
"writers" or something?) so all of my existing 5.5 printer/writer config
stuff is of now use? True?


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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chuck Ackerman
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:30 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Create!Form migration

Sannan,

I'm not sure why you say that 5.5 is the last version for iSeries. We
migrated to 2.7 a couple of years ago. We have several hundred forms
and it took about a week to do the migration. While the new interface
takes some getting used to I actually like it better than the prior one.
Version 2.7 is still iSeries based, no PC server involved at our shop.

I didn't hear that 2.7 is the last one to run on iSeries but it may be.
We purchased a copy of MarkMagic's product last December when they had
the dirt cheap upgrade promotion. We've yet to use Mark Magic's product
but it's our insurance policy.

Chuck

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sannan Solberg
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 7:42 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Create!Form migration

We are currently using CreateForm and are stuck in the same predicament.
We "accidentally" found out that our current 5.5 version (last iSeries
based version) will NOT run under V5R4 according to Bottomline. (If
anyone out there can prove me otherwise, I would love to hear from you).
I have had a little taste of the 2.7 product that you're referring to
and I'm not pleased with it. It does have lots more bells and whistles
but it is definitely a major MIGRATION, not an easy upgrade to get to
that newer product. We have LOTS of forms and the migration would
likely take us months. The one advantage I see moving forward with
CreateForm is adding on the CreateEmail and possibly CreateFax products.
We are getting more and more needs for emailing of things and our
current version does not support it.

I can't seem to get my boss to understand the urgency of making a
decision on this one as well. I'm actually attending a webinar on the
FormFlex product (from DRV) today and it is completely iSeries-based I
understand. And I mean you actually setup the forms on the 400 side of
things, no PC-based design product. To be honest, I actually really
like having the design side of things be on a GUI PC based product and
being able to ship the final product up to the iSeries and I would hate
to give that up but I'll just have do some digging I guess. I also
would like to hear about some other products that we should look into.
Our forms are not overly "complex", just have lots of them (checks,
invoices, PO's, etc). And I'm changing something all the time.
Canadians just changed their check format so had lots of work there, for
example.

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nathan Simpson
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 12:21 AM
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Create!Form migration

Hi,

How many out there use(d) Create!Form?

Those that do would know that it has kind of dropped iSeries support and
new versions are all Windows based.

I want to know what you guys did. Did you stick with Create and migrate
all your forms. How did it go? Performance better or worse? Are you glad
you stuck with Create or do you wish you had used the opportunity to
move to another package and keep it iSeries native?

For those that didn't stick with Create, did you find a product that
could match the features of Create so you didn't lose anything in the
product change?

We are in a bind as to whether to stick with Create or to move on. We
aren't against Windows products, it is just that it is nice to have
everything in one place.

Create is a good product, but I will say the new designer interface
takes a lot of getting used to and the move away from iSeries has taken
some of the shine off the product.

So, I really just wanted some of your thoughts on this and see what path
some of you have taken.

Thanks

Regards

Nathan Simpson
Network Administrator/System Support
AWH Pty Ltd
Wool / Cotton / Property / Logistics / Exchange

Ph 03 5272 9227
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