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I am not sure if I am disappointed or not, until I find out what it cost for each OS/i5 lpar on them. If they are cheap (for i5 prices) I will be happy. I would also like them to price WDS (websphere Development Studio) per user.

You might want to look at
http://www.itjungle.com/tfh/tfh021802-story02.html looks like 250's for $4,800 I think this only included the OS and the new i5's come with at least SQL/Query (on some configurations) and client access, and adding users is about what client access was/is.

The specs for the 250
http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/iseries/hardware/small/250/

For comparison the 170 I run is a 2290 processor (73/20 CPW) came with 64 mb of memory, when I added the max memory 832 mb it did really speed it up.

I guess you have to decide for yourself if getting more memory, disk, power, and some software on the new i5's, but less users and warranty, is a better deal then the older models. It looks like now I only would need to add WDS, were I had to buy each compiler, PDM, SQL/Query, and client access. And the memory and disk is cheaper and bigger then it was before, still high.

This link says SQL/Query is N/A (not optional, but N/A) for option #1, but WDS is optional, why would they do that?
ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_sp/n/ISD03001USEN/ISD03001USEN.PDF

Jon Paris wrote:
Am I the only one who is a little disappointed by the recent announcements?

>From earlier statements by Mark Shearer and others I had been expecting to
see something oriented towards the smaller developer. Maybe $5 - 6K or so.
As best I can tell the new ones are a minimum of $8K and the configuration
at that level more than a little memory and disk constrained.

Maybe I'm mismembering, but surely there have been model 270s in this price
category before?

What am I missing guys? Right now it looks as if my hopes of owning a
system are back on hold again.


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