Re: newer backup methods was: Accidentally Lost Data

Hi Glenn,

*Peter Dow* /
Dow Software Services, Inc.
909 793-9050
pdow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:pdow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> /

Glenn Ericson wrote:

Are  USB Drives  bootable?
Say   I  want to  boot of the USB  which is an image  copy of  my C drive.

At 07:24 AM 3/21/2007, you wrote:

Good info, but it doesn't address my question:  Why should it matter at
all if the drive is solid state or platter-based?

Flash drives have high capacity.  They are bootable.  They can be
formatted with the same three file systems (FAT16, FAT32, NTFS)
available to platter drives.  They are for all intents and purposes
identical from a functionality standpoint.  The only noticeable
differences are the identifier and that Flash drives are better
(smaller, use less power, generate less heat, have zero moving parts,
faster, more enviro-friendly) in every way except price.

Unless MS is side-stepping it's own supported file systems, there is no
_technology_ reason that would prohibit a Flash drive from doing
on-the-fly backups.  So in addition to my original question, I now have
to ask : What is Microsoft's _marketing_ reason for reducing
functionality and only supporting an inferior solution?

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John A. Jones, CISSP
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Jones Lang LaSalle, Inc.
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Subject: RE: newer backup methods was: Accidentally Lost Data

John,

USB devices have identifiers and different device types. I have a Vista
loaner we've been playing with at work. The backup program purposely
does not allow backups to USB flash drives.

>From the help:
"When I'm using the Back Up Files wizard, why don't I see the location
that I want to back up to when I'm choosing where to save my backup?
"* The location is a USB flash drive. You can't save backups to a flash
drive."

Steve may be right, and Vista wants to support on-the-fly restore from
previous backups (a la Leopard).

This is generally for home users; corporate users would probably use
Veritas or another backup solution to save client desktop information.

Loyd Goodbar
Senior programmer/analyst
BorgWarner
TS Water Valley
662-473-5713

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jones, John (US)
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 13:17
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: newer backup methods was: Accidentally Lost Data

Vista: A USB drive is a USB drive.  Why should it matter at all if the
drive is solid state or platter-based?  Either way you can partition
them, format as FAT32 or NTFS, and do whatever else you'd care to do.

16GB Flash drives are out and are under $150 (
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233042 ).
That's plenty for a modest OS + apps + My Documents set up.  Or just My
Docs for incremental/differential backups.

I'm not trying to argue here; you may well be right about MS' approach.
IMO, though, there's no functional difference and MS shouldn't be
dictating what storage media customers use.

--
John A. Jones, CISSP


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