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Jon, <snip>If you can't rely on graduates to fill the vacancies - where are the System i programmers of the future to come from?</snip> Same place they've always come from? There has always been a culture in midrange where Bobby from the warehouse wants to learn computer operations. Later on, he starts programming little utilities, and the next thing you know, he's become one of the programmers.... That's not an uncommon scene in many SMB environments. However, there can be serious flaws in this scenario... The scope of education is often very narrow, and often there is NO formal training provided. The RPG manuals are great for learning what the language can do, but is a lousy guide for "how to think like a programmer". Experience will usually help correct these deficites, but think of all the sloppy code that gets slung before the light shines upon them..... I dunno, education is key to the success of our platform. Eric
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