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You are reading too much into my pain.  For an enterprise server it should
come loaded with everything it needs to administer it (emphasis on needs).
And no I don't want to debate what needs are as I am sure there are many
different levels of need out there. 

Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com

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Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:54 PM
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Subject: RE: 5722JV1 option 6 required for Digital Certificate setup-
anotherway yet?

Therefore you think that TCP should not be 5722TC1 but should be part of
5722SS1 also?  And, not an option of 5722SS1, but part of *BASE?  Because
TCP "is required to administer something on the iSeries" in the same sense.

Let's face it, Java is a hog.  If you have some shop that is only using an
i5 as a glorified S/36, requiring them to load Java as part of the base may
be a waste.  Especially if you have to support multiple versions of Java
Resource 
   ID     Option  Feature  Description 
5722JV1   *BASE    5050    IBM Developer Kit for Java
5722JV1   *BASE    2924    IBM Developer Kit for Java
5722JV1   5        5105    Java Developer Kit 1.3 
5722JV1   6        5106    Java Developer Kit 1.4 

Rob Berendt
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Dept 01.073
PO Box 2000
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6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
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I think is it unreasonable to require Java to be installed if you aren't
running Java applications on your machine.  If Java is required to
administer something on the iSeries then I believe is should come with the
base install of the OS.  The machine is at V5R2.

Aaron Bartell


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Subject: Re: 5722JV1 option 6 required for Digital Certificate setup -
anotherway yet?

   Why is it bad that he needs to have a reasonably current version of 
Java
   installed? The latest version for V5R3 is option 7. (JDK 1.5)
 
   Which OS version is he running? All of the DCM prerequisites are
   documented.
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   Paul Nelson
   Arbor Solutions, Inc.
   708-670-6978  Cell
   pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
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     Date: 12/26/2006 03:52PM
     Subject: 5722JV1 option 6 required for Digital Certificate setup -
     another way yet?

     Hi all,

     I know this question has been asked in the past for previous OS
releases
     and
     I am curious as to if it has changed at all in more recent versions.
Is
     the
     only way to administer Digital Certificates still through DCM (i.e.
     *ADMIN
     HTTP server) using the browser?

     Just had a customer today needing to setup their default certificate
     store
     (i.e. *SYSTEM) and it turns out the necessary components for *ADMIN
HTTP
     server weren't installed.  So now he has to go through the motions of
     loading all that on his machine.  Not the biggest deal in the world,
but
     definitely a bummer that IBM requires 5722JV1 option 6 to be 
installed
     just
     to work with Digital Certificates.  Even if I could only do it 
through
     iSeries Navigator that would be better (in some cases).

     Thanks for any input,
     Aaron Bartell
     http://mowyourlawn.com- Check out the new RPG Chart Engine!
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