RE: WDSC vs SEU RE: Saving the System i: Fight Rather Than Switch -- MIDRANGE-L

Hi Lukas

That is the point, we are on V5R2 and I don't think they are going to upgrade 
as they seem to be getting rid of the iSeries.  :-(

Steve



-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]Namens Lukas Beeler
Verzonden: maandag 18 december 2006 16:49
Aan: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Onderwerp: RE: WDSC vs SEU RE: Saving the System i: Fight Rather Than
Switch


Hi,

WDSC comes together with a new release shipment, if you have a license
for 5722-WDS.

Tell your BP to reorder the V5R4 shipment for your machine, or whatever
release level you are on.

If you want, I can send you CD Images of WDSC which we got with our V5R4
shipment - Contact me Off-List.

Lukas Beeler

DATALINE AG, IBM Premier BP, Switzerland

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Allen
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 3:57 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: WDSC vs SEU RE: Saving the System i: Fight Rather Than
Switch

I'm about to install an old version OF WDSC (5 something) because its
been 2
wks and our BP is STILl checking on how to get the newest WDSc and what
it
will cost us (which is NOTHING, but he has no idea.....)

On 12/18/06, Raby, Steve <agnictsr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


I am a newbie to WDSC and I am trying to use it exclusively, however

there

are things I find SEU better for, (cut and paste blocks of code for
example), but maybe that is due to the version we have and the fact I

don't

know b**ger all yet. :-)

One thing that is annoying is that we are on 5.1.0. and the &*%^*&(^

thing

keeps falling over, and being a newbie I have yet to get into the

habit of

periodically saving my changes, (is there a way to automate this?) so

I have

to keep re-doing hours of work. I am just getting back into using it

after

two weeks of exclusive SEU, because the thing fell over four times in

one

morning.

We are on version 5.2 on the iSeries will the latest version of WDSC

work

on that? As we are losing the iSeries they are not bothered, it seems,

about

upgrading it to 5.4

this comment bugged me a little...

<One of the things that WDSc does is to take most of the development
<enviroment OFF the System i. Unless we have a development server,

chewing

<cycles for additional compiles because of undisciplined programming
<techniques can impact the business bottom line. WDSc can help that -

by

<using the PC as a development tool. What if an order is not taken,
because
<the CPU cycles are re-compiling because you forgot something in your
first
<or second or third or.... pass? Why not code with more discipline,

and

get
<it right earlier?

In 25 years of coding in RPG I have never heard of a company losing
business because a programmer was compiling. Correct me if I am wrong,

but

isn't that what the time slice is for? So EVERYTHING gets an equal

bite at

the cherry? And as for doing a walkthrough to ensure no errors before
compilation are you saying that there were no bugs before we got

interactive

programming instead of batch? As an operator on an ICL 1903 we watched

the

same jobs come in every night for months before the programs were

finally

put live. Forgive me if I am wrong but the implication is that if you

don't

spend hours walking thru your code, (which could be done in minutes

with the

compiler) then you are not a good programmer.

Just my thoughts

Steve



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