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I've had a few occasions over the years where TCP/IP crashed for one reason or another and having a twinax console saved the day. I wouldn't be without it.

Darrell A Martin wrote:
Hi:

I think a distinction needs to be made here. There are elders, and there are doddering elders. Both deserve respect. There are geezers, and then there are old geezers. At 57 I think I am a geezer, but not an old one. I walked 5 miles in the Morton Arboretum yesterday, after work, and did it in street shoes in 1:20. And that was after part of my day was spent going up and down stairs and a stepladder, at relatively high speed, helping fix a hardware failure that knocked out every last network switch in the building.

We have a few doddering 3196 dumb terminals scattered about the production area, both of our consoles are twinax based, and a key machine in the I.T. department is also twinax. Everybody else runs iSeries Access or Wintronix. Guess which connections to the AS/400 stayed up? [grin]

In case anyone is interested, the switches were knocked out when I tried to trace the single standard gauge grounded extension cord that was plugged into one of our larger UPSs which had started beeping. The cord was unusually warm, obviously a concern. Halfway down the wire rack I gave a gentle tug to get the cord out where I could see it a bit better, and all six HP ProCurves went dark. The pull was just enough to finish the job of the input plug failing on the *single* cheap power strip that was handling our entire network infrastructure. (Installed by a "former administration".)

When everything is set up right, both hardware and software, then IP-based stuff is fine. When you are like us, an alternative is very useful ... sometimes, it is just true that Twinax Is Our Friend.

Darrell

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midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 11/13/2006 04:49:01 PM:

ROFL Joe - I agree that it was interesting. But Aaron really needed help directed at his situation, without the noise. I love twinax for
consoles too - but then i am a luddite at heart! It just seemed that
the talk of bricks and bats and all were taking up his time
unnecessarily.
And Rob does need to show more respect to his doddering elders!

LOL
Vern

-------------- Original message -------------- From: "Joe Pluta" <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxx And all this talk of twinax is just pointless when you do not have a

twinax card.
I don't know about that. Discussion of twinax isn't germane to Aaron's

situation, but the comment that stirred a lot of the pot --
specifically,
Rob's opinion that twinax is both archaic and unreliable -- deserved
the
opportunity for rebuttal. It's pretty clear from the comments that us
old
geezers and our silly KISS principle still have some kick left in us.


Joe
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