RE: Cume & Image Catalogs

Once you get current, keeping current isn't bad.  Once a month I use Fix
Central to download updates.  Select "Groups, HIPERS, Cumes".  When
presented with the list of groups, click the first one after the Cume
(should be HIPERs) and shift-click the last one in the list.  For V5R3
that's 25 groups.  Do the option to only download the PTFs that aren't
already on the machine.

I'm too lazy to mess with the CD image catalogs so I just do the above
on each of our LPARs.  Some things are downloaded multiple times (once
for each LPAR) but in the end bandwidth is cheaper than my time.  It
also means I don't have to even think about the variances in LPPs on
each LPAR; all LPARs get anything they could possibly need.

Average d/l per LPAR varies but I'd say it'll run around
500-800MB/month/LPAR.  If you've any kind of decent internet pipe it
won't take that long.  Average time/month/LPAR is 3-5 minutes; just long
enough to sign on the Fix Central and do the selection.  The d/l runs in
the background and I ignore it.

Unfortunately I can't do the above for Cumes.  So once or twice a year
I'll pull the CD images down once and FTP to all of the machines, create
the image catalog, etc.  It's a lot more hassle than the Groups but is
still easier than handling physical media (one of our machines is 8
miles from me; the other is about 30 miles away).  I don't worry much
about the Cumes as most things that are likely to impact us will be
included in the Groups.

John A. Jones, CISSP
Americas Information Security Officer
Jones Lang LaSalle, Inc.
V: +1-630-455-2787 F: +1-312-601-1782
john.jones@xxxxxxxxxx

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Subject: Re: Cume & Image Catalogs

Actually, I think when you order the cume via FTP it also comes with the
hiper and database group.  Ordering that way also gets rid of the
chicken and egg argument.

From the file ilstCUME.txt in my download:

                                                            Version 
                                                            Release 
PTF#      Reason PTF Listed    Status            Product    Mod Lvl 
--------  -----------------    ---------------   -------    --------
MH00651   CO-REQ OF    MH00681 Sup'd by MH00677
MH00666   CO-REQ OF    MH00683 Sup'd by MH00677
MH00637   CO-REQ OF    MH00674 Sup'd by MH00677
MF37730   ORDERED              Sup'd by MF39573
...
SF99504   ORDERED              <<< Shipped >>>   SEL Lst    V5R4M0
SF99539   ORDERED              <<< Shipped >>>   SEL Lst    V5R4M0
...
Then I just load this image catalog all at once.

I order all groups and put them into a different image catalog.  I used
to pick and choose applicable groups but now I just order them all for
my version of OS.  With multiple lpar's running different products and
God knows how many times we add a product after we put on the cume and
groups and now have to reinstall them.  Having the latest already
downloaded makes it really easy to reapply.

Rob Berendt
--
Group Dekko Services, LLC
Dept 01.073
PO Box 2000
Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
http://www.dekko.com





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Because of habit, when loading  cume & hiper volumes to image catalogs, 
I've
always placed them into two separate image catalogs.  That sort of 
dictated
at install time, to process the hipers first, then process the cume and
bounce the box.  I've never tried the 'prompt for media' option when
installing a PTF package, since I used two different image catalogs.
Can
the hiper volumes be added after the cume volumes on the same image 
catalog
to smooth things along?

Buzz Fenner
Systems Analyst/Network Administrator
City Water & Light
870.930.3374
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