Re: First time buying System i5 -- MIDRANGE-L

5722AC3 Crypto Access Provider 128-bit
5722CE3 Client Encryption 128-bit

I thought these are now in the base V5R4, but a new product 5722NAE isrequired for certain functions. If you have 5722AC3 on a V5r3 system, thenduring upgrade to V5R4 it will auto load (otherwise i think you have toselect to load).



http://www-912.ibm.com/s_dir/slkbase.nsf/1ac66549a21402188625680b0002037e/82a9e17adcdeb5938625712d005d0576?OpenDocument&Highlight=0,5722AC3

jim franz

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Must have and needs to be ordered separately is:
5722AC3 Crypto Access Provider 128-bit
5722CE3 Client Encryption 128-bit
5722XE1 iSeries Access for Windows
5722XW1 iSeries Access Family
5722XW1 iSeries Access Enablement Support

Which of the iSeries Access is required I cannot remember.

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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of albartell
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 8:14 AM
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Subject: RE: First time buying System i5

get everything you would not think of, since as a partner it comes at
no

cost on initial order.

I am not sure what to even look for or what to add to my list.  For
instance, is the JVM considered software being that it is an installable
feature similar to the compilers?  Also, is Qshell in the same vein?  Do
I need to request those specifically?

Does anyone have a "must have" list for software on the iSeries?  I know
there is a boat load of Websphere products out there (too many to count)
and those are probably the software packages you are talking about,
correct Vern?

http://www-306.ibm.com/software/websphere/

Aaron Bartell

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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Vernon Hamberg
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 8:02 AM
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Subject: RE: First time buying System i5

Aaron

'Twas good to meet you at COMMON - you might try talking to John Ross at
netshare. As to UPS, we just got the IBM basic one - I forget who is the
actual manufacturer - 5 year full replacement guarantee and all that. I
think you can order it on the lease. I assume you are getting a 520. And
it appears without LPAR.

And load up on the software - get everything you would not think of,
since as a partner it comes at no cost on initial order. Include all the
options - Techline won't necessarily remember to check this for you. Not
their fault, just not what they do.

HTH
Vern

At 04:36 AM 10/4/2006, you wrote:

Now I am getting closer to a purchase/lease and have some questions
about what I will need once the box gets to the office.  Note that this

is the first System i5 we have hosted in our office so that is why the
elementary questions.

1. Do I use 110 or 220 power?  From what I understood in a side
conversation I heard the System i5 can do either.  Benefits to either?

2. Should I get a power conditioning unit?

3. I know I need a UPS.  Any recommendations or will something like the

following work perfect: http://tinyurl.com/qkoy8

4. Any other setup or physical environment things I need to be made
aware of?


BTW, here is where I am at with my configuration - comments?  Note that

I have two HD's and they are mirrored and NOT RAIDed.  The tech I am
working with at IBM, whose judgment I trust, told me that mirrored
drives will give me very similar data protection (i.e. drive goes down,

just replace it ASAP, same as RAID), but also mentioned that mirrored
drives potentially are faster with I/O compared to their RAID

counterparts.


Summary:
 9406 520 0975 7350 600/30 CPW Value Edition with 2G memory
 2x 35.16GB drives; embedded ethernet; DVD; VXA internal cartridge
tape
 V5.4 with one year Software Maintenance;

Full config:
<http://mowyourlawn.com/temp/Krengel_Technology_Value2_3_.pdf>
http://mowyourlawn.com/temp/Krengel_Technology_Value2_3_.pdf

Note that ISV's get software "at no addtl charge" so in the end my
lease price is on the $12,904 number which should put me at $129.04 per

month (not too shabby!).

Aaron "I'm buying an i" Bartell
-------------------------------
mowyourlawn.com



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From: albartell [mailto:albartell@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 8:06 AM
To: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: First time buying System i5


Hi Everyone,

For a variety of details I wont dive into, I am now tasked with
purchasing/leasing my first System i5.  I am actually quite excited
because it is the same feeling I get when I buy a new PC, except this
time I have next to zero knowledge on what I need to tell the friendly
guy on the other end of the phone.  I am coming at this from an
Partnerworld ISV standpoint where they give what seems to be pretty
darned good deals for leasing or buying (i.e. 1% of list price per
month or 50% off list price). Note that this is strictly going to be
used for development and does not need to be HA.

Here's what I need to be able to do on the machine:
1. Develop RPGILE/CLLE/CLE/SQL code (need to be able to compile at
V5R1) 2. QShell environment.
3. Ability to run Java natively AND in a servlet container (Tomcat is
my app server of choice) 4. Ability to have more than one LPAR (rep
tells me I need an HMC to accomplish this. The HMC is some sort of
Linux appliance that gives you control over your different LPARS) 5.
Backup code and files (talking less than 1 or 2GB). Do I need addtl
hardware for this or can I back to a network device?
6. Less than 5 profiles on 5250 at any give time.
7. DB2 and Query and SQL capabilities
8. WDSC and PDM (I already have WDSC 6.0) 9. Apache and SSL
capabilities

My retail price range is $10k to $15k which from what I can tell will
get me a solid entry level machine.

Based on the "Quick Pricer PDF" emailed to me, here is what I THINK I
need, but I am lost as to if I have everything covered.

Model/Server Feature SW Tier: 520-0975 P05
CPW: 600/30 cpw
Edition Name: Value
Processor Speed: 1.9 Ghz Power 5+ includes L3 cache on 1200/60 cpw
version Processor Feature: 8325 Edition Featue and Price: 7350 $8,200
ESA 24x7: $110

Some things I don't understand or need clarification on:
1. What are "feature codes"? (i.e. 8325, 7350, etc).  For instance, it
appears as though feature 7350 is a package deal of some sort.
2. From what I understand ESA gives me 24x7 access to support vs. just
within business hours (seems like a good deal for only $110 more).
3. What is "5250 CPW 30"?  Is that how much processing power is given
to green screens?
4. When they say "Disk Drive" on this page: http://tinyurl.com/pbpxa,
what are they referring to? A harddrive? A backup drive of some sort?
5. Do I need a "Twinax Adapater"?  Is that if I want to connect an old
school console directly to the machine?
6. What's the difference between the "Comm Adapter" and "Ethernet Lan"
on this page: http://tinyurl.com/pbpxa 7. Is 600/30 cpw enough
horsepower to run a machine with less than 5 developers on it at a
given time?
8. Is 1GB of memory enough to do general RPG development with some
small Tomcat/Java and native Java mixed in there?

Thanks to anyone that can help this lowly programmer buy his first
iSeries
:-)

Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com









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