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For this customer, there currently is no twinax in last 6 years,
and I would be shot if suggesting to bring some back (actually it
would confirm to this customer the "perception" the */i/* is "old".
As odd as it sounds, a new thin client does not give the same perception.
Also no spare pc's, no spare anything. Also no net tech. Users are mostly
in the elderly range and it's a place people, even families work for life....
Not tech or pc savvy. This is why they want to keep their rpgii application!
Change is NOT good (to them), but will gently push as many new features
and ideas as possible.
Existing pc's are Win2k and I do have a fear of problems with such an old Win version. I'm basically setting this up and turning over to another developer, so reviewing
options with him.
jim


----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Bolhuis" <lbolhuis@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: small i5 recommendations


If your only consideration is acquisition cost then I have an old
5291-002 for sale freekin cheap. Kinda dirty.....

I look at value (which incidentally is why i use */i/*

Yes a windoze machine may cost a few bucks but it's likely that you have
an old machine around that nobody really wants any longer that is plenty
for this task. You may also have a KVM in the DC to connect it to so no
keyboard, rodent, or display need be purchased either. The software
required is provided with i5/OS.

When you consider that every single time you need to to dedicated system
stuff with my old 5291-002 you need to be in front of it while with the
Ops Console solution you may save yourself several trips to the office
over it's life. Therefore I maintain that the ops console solution is
long term cheaper than el dumbo.   Very much like your */i/* is long
term be cheaper than Windoze servers.

- Larry

Raul A. Jager W. wrote:
I disagree Larry, it is cheaper to use an old tube or to buy  thin
client rather than buy a windows computer for the console.

Larry Bolhuis wrote:


Slap Paul for suggesting a Twinax card!

Small i5 = LAN Console. Or you could do LAN console. Or if you prefer,
LAN console. There is also LAN console. Or in a pinch, I'd try LAN
console.  Nothing to buy nothing to install on the System i.  The
required software comes with the machine and works find on any Win2K or
WinXP or Win2003 server; OK It's not supported on Server but it works fine.

Thin console is cool if you don't care about getting to the console
remotely.

- Larry

pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:



I'd go with the thin console. If it doesn't work out as expected, slap in
a twinax card

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