Re: V5r4 Upgrade, IPL required between Cume and Group PTF installs -- MIDRANGE-L

I have been reading this thread with much interest. Initially, if Irecall correctly, the question had to do with operating system upgrades(thus the subject line).

However, especially after reading Rob's and Larry's missives, I got towondering if the "safe" sequence should be used even when doing thenormal CUME, etc., installs. I installed the latest CUME, for example,to V5R3 two weeks ago to our backup box. At the same time I loaded theHIPER and DB Group that came with it, plus all of the other groups atwhich I was back level.

As I said, this is the procedure I take for all non-OS PTF's. Is thisthe wrong approach in that scenario? Never had a problem (that I knowof) so far, but maybe I've just been lucky.



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Haase, Justin C. wrote:

You know, by making the "e" small in cume, it illuminates the fact even
moreso that the first three letters could be perceived as naughty by
some.

If you do a CHGIPLA to restricted *YES, you don't have to change startup
programs.

--
Justin C. Haase - iSeries System Engineer
IBM Certified Systems Expert - System i
Kingland Systems Corporation

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Larry Bolhuis
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 8:25 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: V5r4 Upgrade, IPL required between Cume and Group PTF
installs

The CUMe / IPL / Groups / IPL tactic will work always and is the safe
way, albeit a tad longer. I think we can all agree on that.

If you routinely apply each CUMe and occasionally adding HIPER and
others between them, doing Groups / CUMe / IPL will not be a problem. If
you wait a year or 18 months between PTFs though, you'd better go back
to 'The Safe Way'.

Here's a time saving tip to help speed up 'the safe way': Before theIPL to apply the CUMe, change sysval QSTRUPPGM to *NONE and CHGIPLA to

NOT start TCP or Printers but YES to start to restricted state. On some
systems this can save more than 30 minutes of starting things up and
shutting them back down between Groups.  When ready to IPL to apply the
Groups then put these values back where you had them.

- Larry

rob@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

Did anyone suggest applying a group first before a cume?  I didn't see

that.
In theory, Tom, if you put on a cume but do not IPL, and then put onsome groups then the prereq's and coreq's should be there. I do thison all cumes, after the first cume from the upgrade, and do not haveany problems. However I still recommend putting on the cume, IPL,then groups, etc for immediately after an upgrade.
Rob Berendt