Re: V5r4 Upgrade, IPL required between Cume and Group PTF installs

[Jerry Adams <jerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I have been reading this thread with much interest.  Initially, if I 
recall correctly, the question had to do with operating system upgrades 
(thus the subject line).


However, especially after reading Rob's and Larry's missives, I got to 
wondering if the "safe" sequence should be used even when doing the 
normal CUME, etc., installs.  I installed the latest CUME, for example, 
to V5R3 two weeks ago to our backup box.  At the same time I loaded the 
HIPER and DB Group that came with it, plus all of the other groups at 
which I was back level. 


As I said, this is the procedure I take for all non-OS PTF's.  Is this 
the wrong approach in that scenario?  Never had a problem (that I know 
of) so far, but maybe I've just been lucky.


Thanks.



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Haase, Justin C. wrote:

> You know, by making the "e" small in cume, it illuminates the fact even
> moreso that the first three letters could be perceived as naughty by
> some.
>
> If you do a CHGIPLA to restricted *YES, you don't have to change startup
> programs.
>
> --
> Justin C. Haase - iSeries System Engineer
> IBM Certified Systems Expert - System i
> Kingland Systems Corporation
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Larry Bolhuis
> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 8:25 AM
> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> Subject: Re: V5r4 Upgrade, IPL required between Cume and Group PTF
> installs
>
> The CUMe / IPL / Groups / IPL tactic will work always and is the safe
> way, albeit a tad longer. I think we can all agree on that.
>
> If you routinely apply each CUMe and occasionally adding HIPER and
> others between them, doing Groups / CUMe / IPL will not be a problem. If
> you wait a year or 18 months between PTFs though, you'd better go back
> to 'The Safe Way'.
>
> Here's a time saving tip to help speed up 'the safe way':   Before the 
> IPL to apply the CUMe, change sysval QSTRUPPGM to *NONE and CHGIPLA to
> NOT start TCP or Printers but YES to start to restricted state. On some
> systems this can save more than 30 minutes of starting things up and
> shutting them back down between Groups.  When ready to IPL to apply the
> Groups then put these values back where you had them.
>
> - Larry
>
> rob@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>  
>
> > Did anyone suggest applying a group first before a cume?  I didn't see
> >    
>
>  
>
> > that.
> >
> > In theory, Tom, if you put on a cume but do not IPL, and then put on 
> > some groups then the prereq's and coreq's should be there.  I do this 
> > on all cumes, after the first cume from the upgrade, and do not have 
> > any problems.  However I still recommend putting on the cume, IPL, 
> > then groups, etc for immediately after an upgrade.
> >
> > Rob Berendt
> >  
> >    
>
>