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I would suggest (as you said) this is very strange.
Something is not right about how this box is setup.
2 suggestions to check :
a. If the security audit log is turned on, review any entries around these errors. The error msg does not indicate security, but error msg may not be the real problem.

b. Compare the following with a working v5r3 system
   Job descriptions involved (all parms)
   subsystem descriptions, especially routing data
   class descriptions

Also - are you at V5R3 or V5R3M5 ?

I have had new i5 server, pre-loaded, coming with strange stuff IBM left on machine from their tests.
Ruling out everything - this is not loaded with V5R3 pre-release cd's?

and call IBM Support if available.

Jim Franz


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>From DSPJOBLOG on the session I did the submit from:

3 > SBMJOB CMD(CALL PGM(OBJECT/ARR745JQ)) JOB(TEST99) JOBD(ARDTASC/ARJOBD)
JOBQ(QBATCH)

   Job 002799/EMERGENCY/TEST99 submitted to job queue QBATCH in library
QGPL.

Looks OK from the display session, but the submitted job blows up.

Francis Lapeyre
IS Dept. Programmer/Analyst
Stewart Enterprises, Inc.
E-mail: flapeyre@xxxxxxxx


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Try submitting it from the command line, and posting the part of the job
log where the submit was done.  You may have to do a DSPJOBLOG to find it.

Rob Berendt
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PO Box 2000
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6928N 400E
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Rob:

I have to amend that. It works fine for some jobs, not others. The job
that
fails in this example also fails from the job submitter OR if I submit it
from the command line. But it works if I remove OBJECT as a qualifier for
the program. It's very strange, because jobs on the job submitter with a
qualified program fail the same way whether I submit them from the job
submitter with a 10 or manually do  the SBMJOB from a command line, while
others (which are not in WRKJOBSCDE) are OK if I submit them from a
command
line with a qualified program.

Francis Lapeyre
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Stewart Enterprises, Inc.
E-mail: flapeyre@xxxxxxxx


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Rob,

Doing a SBMJOB from the command line with a qualified job name works fine.


Thanks - you may have hit on something. We'll look at the QUSRSYS issue.
I'm
copying this message to the operations guy.

Francis Lapeyre
IS Dept. Programmer/Analyst
Stewart Enterprises, Inc.
E-mail: flapeyre@xxxxxxxx


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Ok, but didn't you say you restored a bunch of stuff from your V5R1 box?
If you did, and part of what you restored was QUSRSYS, then you need to go

through the V5R3 upgrade process again.  The concern here is that the
Object      Type      Library
QDFTJOBSCD  *JOBSCD   QUSRSYS
needs to be converted from a restored V5R1 format to the V5R3 OS that is
running.

Again, this is one reason that it is STRONGLY suggested that you upgrade a

box to the current OS before doing this kind of restore to a newer box.

But I seem to remember you also saying that a simple SBMJOB from the
command line and not the job scheduler is also causing you issues?  Is
that true?

Rob Berendt
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Dept 01.073
PO Box 2000
Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
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It's a completely new box which came with V5R3 already there.

Francis Lapeyre
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OK I bet you blew up QUSRSYS... You did re-install/upgrade QUSRSYS after
the upgrade? and you have IPL'd since that restore?

Do a GO LICPGM and then #10 is QUSRSYS and/or QGPL down level?


Kirk Goins CCNA
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Hi Francis,

Sounds like it's using System/38 naming conventions.  Did you at some
point call QCAEXEC instead of QCMD?

*Peter Dow* /
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Lapeyre, Francis wrote:
No - the thing is that we restored this machine from our current
production
machine (at V5R1) for testing. The program exists in OBJECT in both
places.
It's the same program; hasn't been changed since 2001. And this showed
up
with another job schedule entry - so I did a SBMJOB from the command
line,
qualifying the library, and it fails on V5R3, but works on V5R1.

Francis Lapeyre
IS Dept. Programmer/Analyst
Stewart Enterprises, Inc.
E-mail: flapeyre@xxxxxxxx




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