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I'm in to my third week now of this struggle. At first I thought it was just a flukey thing (and hey, it wouldn't be the first time that something "just happened"... think I've even seen a bumper sticker or two about it) so I just waited a couple of days and re-ordered. Hiper Group, WebSphere Group (which would also kick in with DB2, JAVA and HTTP Groups). Eventually (think it was about 30 or 40 minutes) got the notification it would be shipped on CDs. Yeah, it did seem to be taking a longer time than normal-- both times. After the first set of CDs came in, I just sort of looked at them and said to myself "It figures; I suspected something was hinky about that whole episode." and set them aside. Then, I got the second set. The problem I have is that there isn't anything *meaningful* on the external CD labels that shows me what the 4 CDs represent. "Meaningful" to me is what I've seen in the past-- SF99xxx Lvl nnn, SF99yyy Lvl nnn for as many Groups as I ordered; apparently IBM no longer thinks that is meaningful so it is just gone. The label just says "Pkgid: iSeries - OS/400 Service Order" on all 4 CDs, nicely labeled with the _01, _02, _03 and _04 sequencing, and the usual referral to the README Directory on the _01 CD. Ok, I'll see if I can cope with it but first I look at the hardcopy documentation. Same thing-- no evidence of SF99-anything, nothing to show what Groups were ordered or shipped, nothing but a list of PTFs. Looked at the README/PKGLIST and it gets worse-- : Detailed Packing List The Group PTFs are on the following CD-ROMs: Then, I get the volume info for xxxxxxxx_01 followed by volume info for yyyyyyyy_02 *IF NECESSARY* Ooooops! (I got myself all worked up again, describing the problem. "If necessary" wasn't capitalized, I just did that for emphasis.) How in the world could I get such a discrepancy? I actually received 4 CDs, and a detailed listing of all the PTFs... the printed summary says 673 selected fixes and 1,993,572 Kilo-bites of data shipped on 4 volumes. I'm looking at 4 physical CDs and the README says there MIGHT be as many as 2? Doing a "Find" on the README for SF9 produces zero results. There's nothing that identifies what Groups are on the CDs-- however many there are. I had some back-and-forth in an electronic PMR about it and was basically told that's the way it is designed to work now, if I want to fill out a DCR for the design team I am welcome to do so. "It's all part of SI19413 and life should be so easy now all you need to do is GO PTF Option 8 one time... " <hey, that's what I've *been* doing for a couple of years now>. Huh? Does this make sense to anyone else? I know we are being encouraged to download fixes and I think I do my share of them but for some things-- especially keeping track of Groups and levels-- having the CD is just better all around for me. Having IBM burn and ship them is also better for me and that's been my preference and I thought that is one of the things that the maintenance contract was supposed to cover. If IBM wants to encourage customers to download CD images and burn their own CDs, they should discount the maintenance cost, not make the normal (dare I say "legacy"?) method painful. Maybe I missed a big whoop-ti-do announcement about changes in delivery and documentation, but this would be a huge change (if indeed it is a change and not a strange combination of java level, my network, routers somewhere between here and Colorado, etc... or, indeed, a problem). Also, I admit I've been spoiled rotten: I'm used to the maintenance cycle being rock solid dependable. I order, I get what I order, it applies without a glitch or a hiccup almost every time. (Repeat as needed.) Now, ordering takes noticeably longer, I can't even tell that I got what I ordered and quite honestly I am not all that confident that it will load or apply without a glitch. And, how in the world is the system going to keep track of what the level is of any Group that has had maintenance? (I know... that's the system's problem and it probably can handle it much better than I can, but I am having trouble getting past the hurdle of losing confidence in the PTF process.) Boy am I glad that there's an LPAR I can drop this into; normally I put the maintenance in it and go about my business but I'm gonna watch this sucker like a hawk. Is this unique to me, or has someone else noticed a difference in CD labelling of Group PTFs?
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