RE: Software Licensing for HA systems

No, we can't do without either of these two packages.  They are both 
business critical to our operations.

Our primary purpose for implementing the HA solution is for disaster 
recovery purposes.  An outage of even a few hours on either of our 
production systems could/would be devastating to our business.  That said, 
we will probably try to take advantage of the HA system for doing 
upgrades, but that is not the reason for implementing HA.

I wish we could phase these two out, and it may be possible to replace the 
Inovis software with something else.  However, we are in the middle of a 
major implementation and expansion of our use of the SSA Global Infinium 
packages with a major investment in it, so there is almost zero chance 
that it will be replaced any time in the foreseeable future.

Thank you,
Ronald L. Zimmerman
I.T. Applications Manager
Swiss Valley Farms, Co.      http://www.swissvalley.com
"The Good for You Company"
Email: Ron-Zimmerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 02/13/2006 11:46:20 AM:

> Question,  Can you limp along with out those two packages for a short
> period while in DR mode?  Are you implementation a HA system so you can
> move users to the backup system while upgrading the primary system ?
> Third, can you phase out these two packages? 
> 
> 
> Christopher Bipes
> Information Services Director
> CrossCheck, Inc.
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 8:56 AM
> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> Subject: Software Licensing for HA systems
> 
> I would like to know the experience of others with their software 
> licensing and how they have responded when they implemented an HA
> solution 
> such as MIMIX, iTera's ECHO2, etc.
> 
> As we have started preparing for implementing the ECHO2 solution, we 
> contacted all of our software vendors about how we would deal having a 
> second copy of their software on the HA system.  What we have found is 
> that the software vendors' policies range from allowing the second copy 
> for no additional charge all the way to requiring what we consider to be
> 
> an unreasonable additional fee.
> 
> Our position with the vendors is that the second copy is only used as a 
> disaster recovery backup and we will never be using more than one copy
> of 
> the software at any one time, so we believe that anything more than a
> very 
> nominal additional charge is unreasonable.  We have two vendors who are 
> asking/requiring a fee equal to 25% of the list price for the HA copy of
> 
> their software which we believe is very excessive.
> 
> I would like to hear the experience of others and how they have dealt
> with 
> this situation when they implemented their HA systems.
> 
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