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I don't think Joe was saying that FF is any better, or worse, than MSIE.
He was saying that the "FF is secure and IE is not" concept is flawed. And 
I can't see how anyone could legitametly disagree.  Anyone who trusts that 
their browser will not let in these flaws simply because it is not MSIE is 
opening up their PC to attack.  To believe otherwise can only be a 
political attempt to push an anti MS bias.

And I will continue to believe so, just as I believe that Joe's perception 
that none of IBM's "integrity" ptf's are out there for security purposes 
is flawed because of his strict bias that i5/os has no security leaks that 
have ever needed to be fixed because it is not susceptible to "buffer 
overruns".

Now, is this something that needs to be moved to PCTECH, or still 
justified here to encourage development of browser agnostic websites?

Rob Berendt

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