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Parms have been there for awhile, just not with the same inter-relational 
requirements. The 2 optional groups were new in V5R1.

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> Then the API hasn't changed, has it? Did IBM release a PTF for older 
> operating systems to make the API have the same parms as the V5R3 
> version? 
> 
> > -------- Original Message -------- 
> > Subject: Re: WHAT was IBM THINKING?!?!?, Re: QSYGETPH API 
> > From: "Shannon O'Donnell" 
> > Date: Thu, September 15, 2005 10:58 am 
> > To: 
> > 
> > Take one step back on the holier than thou attitude there Doug. Not all of 
> > us 
> have gone to V5R3 yet and have therefore had any need to read the memo to 
> users 
> for that release yet. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: "Douglas Handy" 
> > Sent: 9/15/05 9:13:09 AM 
> > To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" 
> > Subject: Re: WHAT was IBM THINKING?!?!?, Re: QSYGETPH API 
> > 
> > Shannon, 
> > 
> > > I did not notice that the length of the passWord is also required now. 
> > > That sucks. 
> > 
> > 
> > I don't think IBM ever breaks an existing public API lightly (unlike 
> another 
> > OS vendor who shall remain nameless...). But in this case, it appears the 
> > change was very intentional and was specifically changed in order to 
> thwart 
> > a possible exploit described by Scott. IBM takes security very seriously 
> > (again, unlike another OS vendor who shall remain nameless, or at least 
> they 
> > didn't used to...), and faced with a choice of keeping compatibility and 
> the 
> > exploit working, or closing the exploit by requiring relatively minor 
> > changes to user programs, they chose what seems to me to be the only 
> logical 
> > alternative. 
> > 
> > But they also documented the change in the Memo to Users. Reading that is 
> > part of your release update planning, isn't it? Why do you think they 
> bother 
> > to write the Memo to Users? 
> > 
> > In terms of James' question "What was IBM thinking?!?", the answer appears 
> > to be security. But I also don't fault IBM for being vague and not 
> spelling 
> > out the exact exploit, since this change only closes it for V5R3 users. 
> > Given the circumstances, do you really think it would be better to leave 
> the 
> > API the way it worked in the past? 
> > 
> > Doug 
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