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Re: COMMON Values (was=>> iSeries vs. zSeries)

Eric,

Why wait for your employer to pay for your own education?
When you were at school (college / university) who was paying for your education? You or your parents, right?, no employer. 

Take it on yourself to get (and choose) your own 'continuing' education.
For my very first COMMON, I told my boss I would be 'off' during that week. I told him "take it the way you want: vacations or leave of absence, I'll be at COMMON" I added: "And I won't ask you for anything, so I'll learn whatever I want". When he realized I was serious, he then offered to pay for 'some' of my expenses. He also realized it could only profit the company as I would be more knowledable. I could tell you that first week was one of the most exciting week I had, I was at COMMON from 7:30am to midnight, Sunday to Friday of that week. What a week!
That was in 1989 and I still attend COMMON at least once a year, sometimes twice! 

Eric, take YOUR future in YOUR hands, go for it, you won't regret it.
As for vacations time, that's what my wife and I do when I (we) go to COMMON. Get there early (Saturday before the conference) and leave as late as possible (Sunday afternoon after the confernce). I sign her as a guest so she can walk around the conference at ease, come to opening & closing sessions, CUDS and few other events. She tours the city area while I attend sessions. We do our things during the day and meet after for dinner. My wife loves it as well, she often reminds me to "book for COMMON" until I do.
So Eric, will we see you in Orlando? - Great place for familly vacations - COMMON is great too!. 

Leo



Glenn Ericson wrote:



What  would you change to make it a better content  or other values

At 01:37 PM 8/24/2005, michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:


COMMON is nice, but I think it was more valuable in the past than it is
today.

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: iSeries vs. zSeries
> From: "DeLong, Eric" <EDeLong@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Wed, August 24, 2005 1:18 pm
> To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>
> Not to beat this dead horse again, but I've never been in a position where I > could attend COMMON. I know I could use my personal vacation to attend one > myself, but I'm not a member of COMMON, nor am I actively involved with LUG, > so the cost could be considerable. I would certainly like to see what it's 
> all about, but I can't easily justify the personal expenses involved.
>
> I suppose I fit in the "young" category (at age 37), but with 20 years in > midrange, my memory tells me that 1) I've never worked in a shop that was > affiliated with COMMON, 2) I've never worked in a shop that supported the > notion of sending anyone to COMMON, 3) most shops refuse to allow their 
> programmers to get involved in LUG, 4) only one shop has paid for
> specialized education. Its a lousy track record, and in my opinion, it's 
> only getting worse.  Bummer...
>
> In lieu of COMMON, I've come to see these mailing lists as my educational 
> salvation.
>
>
>
> Eric DeLong
> Sally Beauty Company
> MIS-Project Manager (BSG)
> 940-297-2863 or ext. 1863
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Trevor Perry
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 9:34 AM
> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> Subject: Re: iSeries vs. zSeries
>
>
> Eric,
>
> I encourage you to attend any of the YiP events at COMMON in Orlando. You 
> may be surprised at how many "young programmers" are there!
>
> Trevor
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DeLong, Eric" <EDeLong@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 4:34 PM
> Subject: RE: iSeries vs. zSeries
>
>
> > Yeah, what a shame that the young programmers are never (in my experience) 
> > the ones that get to go to COMMON.....
> >
> > Eric DeLong
> > Sally Beauty Company
> > MIS-Project Manager (BSG)
> > 940-297-2863 or ext. 1863
>
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