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Bruce,

thanks.  Normal breathing can resume.  It's just really expensive to buy a
iSeries hardware base just to run AIX or where AIX is a major o/s base...

Don in DC



On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, Bruce Vining wrote:

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>    The i5/OS PASE runtime is strategic to i5/OS and will continue to be
>    maintained and enhanced on the eSeries i5.  There are no plans (or even
>    discussion of plans) to change this.
>
>    Increasing numbers of applications as well as significant portions of
>    i5/OS itself rely on the PASE runtime.  PASE continues to be enhanced to
>    support the most current released version of AIX available at the i5/OS
>    GA -- for the current i5/OS release V5R3 PASE is based on AIX 5L Version
>    5.2.
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>    The PASE runtime often provides an i5/OS application developer with the
>    best application portability with other UNIX platforms.  And, since PASE
>    uses the underlying i5/OS support for configuration, userids, file
>    systems, authorization, auditing, and etc., PASE avoids all of the
>    complexity of managing a separate AIX or Linux partition.
>
>    Bruce Vining
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>              AM                        PASE runtime going away!!!!
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> All according to this article:
> http://www.itjungle.com/tfh/tfh021405-story04.html
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> "On that same day (April 1st), IBM also plans to withdraw the OS/400 PASE
> AIX runtime environment (feature 5732 of OS/400) from marketing, as well as
> its feature 1893 36.4 GB, 10K RPM disk drives. Now that the i5 supports the
> real AIX, IBM doesn't want to sell customers an AIX runtime environment or
> pay to support it on older machines. Customers who want to run Unix
> applications on their OS/400 platforms will just have to upgrade to i5s and
> run the real AIX."
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> WTF?  I don't explicitly use PASE at present, but I was under the
> impression that some of the new features in OS/400, (DNS, C++ compiler
> maybe?) were actually AIX executables running in PASE.  How can they kill
> it off?
>
> Seems like that could cause some problems to those on older but recent
> boxes such as my 810.
>
> How exactly does the dropping work?  If I order v5r3 now will it have PASE
> but if I order it after March 1 it won't?
>
> Charles Wilt
> iSeries Systems Administrator / Developer
> Mitsubishi Electric Automotive America
> ph: 513-573-4343
> fax: 513-398-1121
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