Re: code page/CCSID for CPY***IMPF and STMF

Does IBM have a recommendation on what the CCSID should be?

They (IBM) really seem to have fouled this up with V5R3. Does anybody 
understand why they made such a radical change to this utility?

Thanks,

Ron Adams
Information Technology Group
Crane Valves
9200 New Trails Dr. Suite 200
The Woodlands, TX 77385






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Rob,

On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 14:51:00 -0500, rob@xxxxxxxxx <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> That ain't going to work.
> 
> We did a CHGSYSVAL QCCSID to 37.

ooh.
 
> Try a CHGJOB CCSID(37) then your steps (including deleting the file and
> the CRTPF) again to test.  If successful, then figure out a time to do 
the
> CHGSYSVAL QCCSID and make the leap.  Really didn't cause any issues. 
He!!

You don't sound all that confident.  ;)

This is interesting:  I did a CRTPF CCSID(37) without changing my job,
and it told me that "CCSID 37 not allowed with file type *DATA".   Why
would it care?

I then changed my job to CCSID(37) and did the same thing, same
message.  not specifying the CCSID let me create the file, but the
resulting object had a CCSID of 65535.   Is this expected behaviour?

> I think I did it midday.
>
> This is the long term solution.  You will hear of all sorts of 
workarounds
> and temporary fixes like the data area (which will be removed in a 
future
> release).  However IBM is giving a hard push to getting off of 65535 and
> picking a different CCSID.

I agree, but I hate flying blind here.

Where can I learn a little more about code pages and CCSID?  I didn't
find infocenter very helpful.

thanks,

Rick

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> Rob,
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> >>When you try to copy the file back to the IFS, what are you copying
> from?
> 
> flat physical file - CRTPF RCDLEN(80) CCSID(*JOB)
> user CCSID is *sysval
> sysval for CCSID is 65535
> 
> >>What is the CCSID and/or code page of that file?
> 
> 65535
> 
> The original file received from the bank is a stream file - CCSID 37.
> I get the file via FTP.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Rick
> 
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> > Can someone point me to a clear and concise document that explains
> > code page - CCSID topics and how to effectively use them when
> > transfering files of various CCSIDs from physicals to stream files
> > using the CPY***IMPF or STMF commands?
> >
> > Ever since upgrading to V5R3, a ton of my CPYFRMIMPF and CPYTOIMPF
> > commands have broken.   I know about the PTFs, and the data area to go
> > back to V5R2 versions of the commands, but some things are still are
> > just not working right anymore, and I'm ticked off about.
> >
> > in one case, i have a flat file from the bank, and it has a leading
> blank.
> >
> > I do a cpyfrmimpf to a flat PF, using RMVBLANK(*NONE) but it still
> > trims the first blank of the first record before stopping the trim.
> >
> > When I recieve the file from the bank, it's indeciferable when opened
> > in notepad, but copies up to the iseries just fine (except for the
> > blank described above).  But I can't copy the same file back to the
> > IFS.   I used to be able to do a CPYTOIMPF STMFCODPAG(*PCASCII) and I
> > could get an ascii readable stream file no matter the code page of the
> > source file - not any more.
> >
> > I've done a work around for the trim, but if they fix it in a
> > subsequent PTF, it'll break again.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
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