RE: EZ-Setup - Model 800 V5R3 - Does EZ mean Easy ??

Hi Fabrice


Have you tried Moorgate? they always had a lot of 2nd user kit, 01925 765432
www.moorgate.co.uk

Regards

Steve 



-----Original Message-----
From: Fabrice Calmelat [mailto:f.calmelat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 13 December 2004 09:26
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: EZ-Setup - Model 800 V5R3 - Does EZ mean Easy ??


Hi Neil,

I now wish I had put this EZ stuff in the bin on day one... What a waste of
time just to install the bl**dy thing.

About 10 years ago, I was involved in setting up our first RISC machine to
replace the old white box. The whole process went so smoothly, it was
unreal... 

When I did the planning for this new box and went through the 100 odd pages
to decide what to use as a console, I thought the twinax option would be the
best. Unfortunately, it looked like we got rid of our dumb terminals at some
point. That's actually a call: if anyone in the London (UK) area has a spare
unused and dusty dumb terminal they want to get rid off, I would happily
swap it for let's say a couple of bottles of champagne to enjoy at
Christmas.

Anyway, even if I had had a dumb terminal at hand, I would probably have
fallen in the same trap (install ez-setup and select the twinax option in
the interview), which would surely have triggered the same issue.

I went on my would-be console again this morning, to check this silly
message again: "MAXFRAME value not valid". The only available option is to
click "OK". Trying to use the wizard online help gives me the following nice
message: "Congratulations! You have successfully configured your new LAN
TCP/IP Interface". I like nice messages, but I much prefer them when they
actually make sense. Anyway, I can live with the fact the MAXFRAME value is
invalid (which I assume is being used in the CRTLINETH command), but since
the wizard does not even ask for a value, the situation is just plain
stupid.

Oh well... Such is life (sometimes)...

I will try to get on the phone to IBM today and check if they have any
explanation for it.


Fabrice.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neil Palmer/DPS
Sent: 13 December 2004 01:40
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: EZ-Setup - Model 800 V5R3 - Does EZ mean Easy ??

A perfect example of why many of us old timers don't care much for 
steenking PC consoles, and have never tried the so called "EZ Setup" 
because it's EZ enough to set up a 400 (ok, iSeries)  without throwing the 
aggro and instability of dealing with Windoze and PC software on a toy 
"personal" computer into the task of setting up a real computer.  :-) Then 
again I suppose that's because we've done it before and know it all and 
don't need to read any documentation or use any crappy PC software to tell 
us how to set up our Business Computer. 

Seriously though, it sure sounds like this EZ Setup stuff could have used 
a little more testing by the User Centered Design Team in Rochester 
instead of being reviewed by the V5R3 "Not Ready For Prime Time" crew. 

Just my .02 worth.  :-)

...Neil




"Fabrice Calmelat" <f.calmelat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
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EZ-Setup - Model 800 V5R3 - Does EZ mean Easy ??






Dear all,

Here are a few thoughts after spending the whole day trying to get our new
development box (Model 800 in V5R3) up and running:

- Installing "iSeries Setup and Operations" (iSeries Access + EZ-Setup)
worked well,
- However after rebooting the PC, the following message appeared: "ez2.exe
has encountered a problem and needs to close - We are sorry for the
inconvenience".
- I was pretty sorry myself at that stage, as it wasn't a very good start 
to
say the least.
- Because the PC I was using had a fair amount of stuff installed and was 
on
SP2, I decided to try again with a "clean" PC running Win XP Pro SP2. I 
got
the same message.
- I thought I would try again on a box without SP2. I got the same 
message.
- So I tried it on a Win XP Home machine (even though it does not seem to 
be
supported), and as I guessed, I received the same message.
- Doing a search on Google didn't bring much, so I started a full 
re-install
of a PC with only Win XP Pro. After installing iSeries Setup and 
Operations,
I got the very same message again.
- I thought I would try to launch ez-setup anyway in order to go to the
interview stage and check what would happen.
- I went through the interview and started with step one which is 
installing
Information Center. As it would take some time for a full install on the
local drive and because of my bad luck in the morning I decided it was 
time
for some lunch. I pressed the magic button on the iSeries, waited a bit 
for
it to start and off I went.
- On my return, the control panel on the iSeries indicated that the 
console
could not be found, which was, I suppose, a fair enough message.
- I carried on with my would-be console and finalized the installation of
Information Center.
- After a few reboots and accepting every single software agreement, I was
finally in control of the box and changed the expired QSECOFR password.
- I completed step 2 in ez-setup (changing QDATE and QTIME) and I was
pleased.
- Step 3 was ok, but unfortunately, ez-setup stopped responding for 
whatever
reason.
- After restarting ez-setup, it was just impossible to connect to the
iSeries.
- I assumed that from an iSeries point of view, the line was still in use.
Digging up the documentation I found the procedure to re-initialize the 
line
and I felt much better when I got my SRC D1008066.
- From my would-be console, I was back on and attempted to run step 4 in
order to configure the Security Settings. The nice and fancy wizard walked
me through and it worked a treat.
- I didn't run the Additional Security Setup as I was on a bare Win XP box
without any firewall or anti-virus and thought I would leave it for when 
the
box would be up and running.
- I then proceeded to the creation of the TCP/IP interface. Again, I
answered every question and was congratulated by the wizard for 
successfully
configuring my "new TCP/IP LAN Interface". I could have been over the 
moon,
but unfortunately, by clicking the "Finish" button, I got a nasty message
saying "MAXFRAME value not valid".
- I assumed from the questions asked by the wizard that one of the end
results would be to create the Ethernet Line on the iSeries, MAXFRAME 
being
one of the parameters of the CRTLINETH command. However, the wizard does 
not
ask for it at all... Would it not use a default of 1496???


Anyway, this is where I left it, as it was indeed enough for one day with
this everything but EASY "ez-setup".


Did any of you experience such troubles when installing a brand new 
machine
in the simplest configuration ever (1 iSeries in  V5R3, 1 UPS Powerware
9125, 1 clean Win XP Pro console cabled via 97H7557 serail cable) ?

I hope I am not the only one, because otherwise I will have to visit a
psychiatrist to check if I was such a bad person in a previous life to
deserve such hassle in that one, especially on a Sunday. Alternatively and
if it doesn't already exist, I don't mind running an online club for IT
people wasting their time on a Sunday trying to solve problems that
shouldn't exist in the first place. 


Anyway, I would love to hear about your experiences and any clues to
progress this issue are indeed welcome.



Fabrice.

PS: God, it feels good to share a problem...
 




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