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  3. January 2005

RE: Microsoft goes after the iSeries

I mostly agree with you. AVR is great for client server and 3 tier apps where tier 2 needs to be IIS. Some of us don't get to choose. Very easy and efficient, and of course the database at a bare minimum needs to stay on the iSeries, unless you have a SQL Server death wish. I use it to call back end server code on the iSeries all the time, and I think the CS apps are at least as fast as a comparable green screen, with no interactive penalty. I avoid AVR native file IO, mostly because it doesn't have a place in a CS or 3-tier environment, but I've also found it prohibitively slow. A reasonably competent programmer with no GUI experience can be productive with AVR in just a couple of weeks with a little direction. Syntax is similar to /FREE. Maybe I have no imagination, but I don't know of what use it would be without the iSeries.

Pete

At 11:25 1/8/2005, Joe Pluta wrote: 
As long as the idea was to use RPG skills to build thick client
applications that extend legacy systems, I was ambivalent.  I think
there are better thick client development environments, but on the other
hand it's a nice way to leverage your existing skill set.  However, now
that the message is clearly to move your iSeries systems to .NET, I am
quite opposed to the entire concept.

What I want to see is someone stand up and say, "Leave the back end on
the iSeries, and use whatever front end you want."  That's the REAL
answer.

Joe


> From: Pete Hall
>
> It's still primarily a way to access the iSeries from a gui, although
they
> do have a tool for getting at SQL server data using the same
interfaces.
> They've been GA with the .NET version of AVR for close to 2 years. AVR
> always was a Windows product, so it's really not much of a change. In
> reality, I don't think they had any choice. It was either get on board
or
> junk their flagship product.

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