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Very well thought and modernized question. You and I have similar workloads I believe. My boss, (whom you've met), is using iSeries Navigator to do must of his performance monitoring. We've not yet tied the monitors into Sametime, but we're interested in doing so. By end of week I will have Sametime Everyplace installed so that I can use my Treo 600 to do Sametime. Be nice to have this for monitoring. Response time metrics in a "non-traditional" environment. This is where our concern is. For example, when only 9% of your system is used for "traditional" applications like payroll, ERP, accounting, what is good, bad, meaningless for page faulting in *base? However, you have it right when you state that the end result you want is acceptable response time. Looking at page faulting is a possible symptom - not the problem. Is using the same performance arguments from an handout prepared for COMMON in 1988 still valid? For example, I know that 7 newer disk drives with newer cache, etc blow the doors off of 42 older disk drives. Rather destroys the disk arm mantra. We have some homegrown applications for monitoring the status of our Domino applications and performing alerts. But are interested in exploring Domino Administrator capabilities more to see what's built in there. For example, our sametime domino servers start, but often the sametime services themselves try to start and then peter out. Our existing homegrown doesn't go to this granularity. I need to. Some of our homegrown is more systemic. For example, we send out an email from Domino to an external service and get a response. If the response doesn't come back in a specified time, then action needs to be taken. The problem may be with: Domino, i5, network, external service, inbound only, outbound only, etc. We get notified when it doesn't work, but we need to analyze why. We have this process constantly running. Speaking of the Sametime Everyplace, I've had two people pop in just during the typing of this email wanting to know the status - got to go. Rob Berendt -- Group Dekko Services, LLC Dept 01.073 PO Box 2000 Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755 http://www.dekko.com Mike.Crump@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 01/05/2005 09:48 AM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx cc Subject Performance Monitoring/Notification/Reporting Broad question but I was looking for some insight on what people were doing for perf. monitoring and reporting (including ISV, PT/400, iSeries Navigator monitors, etc.). Today, I'm working mostly with PT/400 and iSeries Navigator but I want to broaden my abilities. I think I can do it with these products but that some functions will require some effort. Not that I'm against it but I just don't have the time I used to have..... :-) My broad requirements are: 1.) The usual metrics (cpu utilization, interactive utilization, database utilization, interactive response time, transaction rate, disk arm utilization, dasd iop utilization, dasd utilization, memory pool fault rates, logical IO, physical IO, etc.) Which does beg a question - with WAS, Domino, HTTP, QP, ST, ODBC, etc. what are people's thoughts on response time metrics? We keep on adding more and more non-green screen applications so my interactive response time is now only a portion of my response time concerns. 2.) Real time monitoring with real time viewing. Close to real time, none of this wait till tomorrow's reports. 3.) Drill down capabilities from online monitors - ability to drill down to a job. 4.) Alert processing - ability to set thresholds and multiple alert capabilities - message queue, pager, email, SameTime, etc. Alert reporting - summary of alerts for a given time frame. 5.) Executive report capabilities through the web. 6.) Very granular control over what get's monitored and reported on. 7.) Ability to granularly control historical measures. In essence, roll real time data to a daily summary, to a monthly summary, to a yearly summary, etc. And save DASD storage while I'm at it. 8.) Various publishing capabilities - prefer presenting data for the browser but may need to also automatically publish to PDF or some other type of output. 9.) Plug-in's for Domino, WAS, etc. I see a need to present system data but may also need to start looking more closely at providing some ability to monitor/report for application servers...... Michael Crump Manager, Computing Services Saint-Gobain Containers 1509 S. Macedonia Ave. Muncie, IN 47302 (765)741-7696 (765)741-7012 f (800)428-8642 "The probability that we may fail in the struggle ought not to deter us from the support of a cause we believe to be just" Abraham Lincoln -- This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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