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Mark, IBM sunk their costs for HMC many moons ago. The concept has been around in the mainframe world for many years now. If you open the door of an S/390 you will see a ThinkPad mounted in there for the same purpose. The HMC has also been available on the pSeries for well over a year now. Again, this is the first round of HMC for the i5 and there will be improvements over time Regards, Mike Shaw -----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark S. Waterbury Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 11:28 AM To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion Subject: HMC, Operations Console, ClientAccess Console, etc. Importance: High Hello, all: Whether it is the "latest and greatest" Hardware Management Console, or the Operations Console (that comes with the EZ/Setup CD or ClientAccess CDs), or the previous generation of PC Console that was a part of ClientAccess, this has always been a very "touchy" area of OS/400, unless of course you used a genuine TwinAx console. Consider some alternatives that are out there in the industry... for example, how do you configure your LinkSys Router or Wireless hub? With a browser, of course... ;-) And how do you configure Cisco routers, etc.? I believe you just telnet into it, with any telnet client. I would like to suggest that IBM should strongly consider supporting the use of any telnet client or any simple browser, by supporting a very simple TCP/IP stack, with rudimentary telnet and/or HTTP servers, built-in, to talk to this "console" (either telnet or browser)... Then, we could use almost any device that can run a browser and can physically connect... (whether over RS-232 or Ethernet, etc.) This is an area of the AS/400, iSeries and now eServer (p5 and i5) that has been, and apparently continues to be, far too complex and problematic, for far too long. I contend that IBM should search for the "best simple" solution, rather than building yet another, ever more complex "solution" that requires customers to purchase another separate piece of hardware (aka. the HMC), which, of course, can "fail". I mean, what's the big deal? (besides getting customers to fork over $$$ for the new HMC hardware)... I can hardly believe that IBM would make much (or any) profit on these HMCs (considering the R&D costs) ... I mean, how many of them can they really sell? How many does any one shop really need? How much do these things cost, anyway? Regards, Mark S. Waterbury -- This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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