RE: Lansa/MRC Users

>hopefully Lansa won't get relegated to the unwanted toy basement of 
>Computer Associates as Synon was :-) 

Richard,

Taken a look recently? Green screen, web, EJBs, Web Services, not bad
for a product relagated to the toy basement. And that's the 2E (iSeries
native) product.

Want full cross platform, take a look at Plex (what Synon called
Obsydian). Also in that "toy basement" at CA, but has code generation
for iSeries, Java, Windows (C++) deployed on HP, Sun, iSeries
(obviously), Windows, SQLServer, Oracle, etc. 

I'm not saying they're perfect (and I'm _not_ a salesperson for them),
but I think they deserve to be looked at.

-Walden

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Walden H Leverich III
President & CEO
Tech Software
(516) 627-3800 x11
WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
http://www.TechSoftInc.com 

Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
(Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)
 
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 3:51 PM
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Lansa/MRC Users

Hello Jeff, 

Thanks for the feedback.

I remember Synon as well. The Lansa model seems somewhat similar,
however 
hopefully Lansa won't get relegated to the unwanted toy basement of 
Computer Associates as Synon was :-)

Regards,
Richard Schoen
RJS Software Systems Inc. 
"Your Complete iSeries and PC Solution Provider"
Email: richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Web Site: http://www.rjssoftware.com
Tel: (952) 898-3038
Fax: (952) 898-1781
Toll Free: (888) RJSSOFT

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message: 2
date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 08:40:12 +0100 
from: Jeff Bull <Jeff.Bull@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: Lansa/MRC Users

I have used MRC, though that was several years ago.

My criticism then, though may not be relevant now, was that it was 
marketed
as a management reporting tool.
It was so complex, probably because it was so powerful, that we had an
experienced analyst-programmer working on it almost full-time. The 
knowledge
of the structure of DB2/400 was a key factor in getting to grips with
it,
and being a programmer reduced quite a steep learning curve.

The internal auditors used it, but insisted on Query/400 to validate
their
results!

I was once, for my sins, a Lansa Administrator - I never had to create
programs with it.  It was quite easy to manage, configure etc.  I had
previously worked in a Synon shop, and the levels of praise and
complaint
among the developers was about the same.
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