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Walden, you said: That's where the confusion comes from though. I don't think it's the same. If I had an AS/400 sitting here, it's an AS/400. When I bought an iSeries it wasn't an AS/400, it was an iSeries. However, I think this is different. If I buy a new 570, I'm buying an i5, but I think I'm buying an iSeries i5, not just an i5. That is the new hardware is still correctly called an iSeries. You are correct. An i5 with i5/OS is different from an iSeries or an AS/400. The i5 is still in the iSeries family along with the iSeries 8xx models, etc. Hope I didn't add to the confusion! ..... Anne ************************************* Have a blessed day! Anne C Lucas, Customer Account Executive Genisys Group Inc http://www.teamggi.com alucas@xxxxxxxxxxx Office: 205-823-4831, Pager 800-223-3907 So Anne Lucas (AOL Instant Msg) ************************************* ---------------------------------------------------------------------- message: 1 date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 11:15:55 +0200 from: Philipp Rusch <philipp.rusch@xxxxxxxxxxxx> subject: Re: Using IFS for Antivirus Updates to PC's ? I have no WINS there and I "see" all clients in the dropdown list to select them from. Philipp Walden H. Leverich schrieb: >>Definitely not ! You don't need WINS to get Symantec Antivirus to do >>that, I do it without WINS >>at a customers site with all W2K and WinXP boxes, it does all fine. >> >> > >You've gotten Client Rollout to work off a DNS server? The only way I've >gotten it to "see" the machines for me to deploy to is WINS or by >loading the IPs into a text file and importing. > >-Walden > >PS. I never said I _like_ WINS, just that I've found it's necessary in >some cases. > >------------ >Walden H Leverich III >President & CEO >Tech Software >(516) 627-3800 x11 >WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >http://www.TechSoftInc.com > >Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur. >(Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.) > >-----Original Message----- >From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Philipp Rusch >Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 3:46 PM >To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion >Subject: Re: Using IFS for Antivirus Updates to PC's ? > >comments inside: > >Walden H. Leverich schrieb: > > > >>>From: Philipp Rusch >>>If you use the windows server machine DON'T GO WINS ! >>>Even Microsoft doesn't recommend it's use anymore, the way to go is >>> >>> >>> >>> >>DNS, >> >>In theory I agree, however a number of things still rely on a WINS >>server being around. If you're in an all XP environment and have no 3rd >>party software that wants WINS you're ok, but otherwise it's been my >>experience that you still need WINS. >> >>BTW, the QNTC subsystem wants a WINS server. And in my case Symantec's >>AntiVirus wants a WINS server to discover the network. >> >> >> >Definitely not ! You don't need WINS to get Symantec Antivirus to do >that, I do it without WINS >at a customers site with all W2K and WinXP boxes, it does all fine. > >What is so BAD about WINS that one would very much like to avoid its use > >in a network ? >It's simply the fact that WINS uses broadcasts throughout your whole >network every so and so >seconds. This produces a "background noise" in your net and wastes >bandwith. >There are better ways around, one is DDNS. > > > >>-Walden >> >>------------ >>Walden H Leverich III >>President & CEO >>Tech Software >>(516) 627-3800 x11 >>WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>http://www.TechSoftInc.com >> >>Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur. >>(Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.) >> >> >> >> >Just my 2 cents, >Philipp >-- >This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing >list >To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx >To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, >visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l >or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx >Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives >at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > >-- >This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list >To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx >To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, >visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l >or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx >Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives >at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > > > ------------------------------ message: 2 date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 10:32:43 +0100 from: "Paul Tuohy" <tuohyp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> subject: Re: Using IFS for Antivirus Updates to PC's ? <snip> > BTW, the QNTC subsystem wants a WINS server. And in my case Symantec's > AntiVirus wants a WINS server to discover the network. > > -Walden <end-snip> I don't think this is true. I don't have a WINS server running and I can see all in the QNTC file system. All PCs are 2000 or XP. Paul Tuohy ------------------------------ message: 3 date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 09:02:16 -0400 from: "Walden H. Leverich" <WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> subject: RE: Using IFS for Antivirus Updates to PC's ? >I don't think this is true. I don't have a WINS server running and I can see >all in the QNTC file system. All PCs are 2000 or XP. All on the same subnet? Perhaps it's resolving via broadcast. Then again, things may have changed since last I played with it. But if it's not using WINS, what is is using? DNS? And listing what, all machines in the domain? -Walden ------------ Walden H Leverich III President & CEO Tech Software (516) 627-3800 x11 WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.TechSoftInc.com Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur. (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.) -----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Tuohy Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 5:33 AM To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion Subject: Re: Using IFS for Antivirus Updates to PC's ? <snip> > BTW, the QNTC subsystem wants a WINS server. And in my case Symantec's > AntiVirus wants a WINS server to discover the network. > > -Walden <end-snip> I don't think this is true. I don't have a WINS server running and I can see all in the QNTC file system. All PCs are 2000 or XP. Paul Tuohy -- This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. ------------------------------ message: 4 date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 09:11:35 -0400 from: "Walden H. Leverich" <WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> subject: Clarify i5 vs. iSeries please All, Am I correct in my understanding that the "iSeries" name is _not_ going away. The i5s are the "most recent member of the iSeries family" according to the iSeries home page @ IBM. So if I wanted to correctly refer to what one of those machine that we all have that run 5250 applications could I still correctly call it an iSeries? -Walden ------------ Walden H Leverich III President & CEO Tech Software (516) 627-3800 x11 WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.TechSoftInc.com Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur. (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.) ------------------------------ message: 5 date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 09:18:45 -0400 from: michaelr_41@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx subject: Re: Clarify i5 vs. iSeries please Sure...just like there were/are AS/400s before iSeries. On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 09:11:35 -0400, "Walden H. Leverich" <WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said: > All, > > Am I correct in my understanding that the "iSeries" name is _not_ going > away. The i5s are the "most recent member of the iSeries family" > according to the iSeries home page @ IBM. > > So if I wanted to correctly refer to what one of those machine that we > all have that run 5250 applications could I still correctly call it an > iSeries? > > -Walden > > ------------ > Walden H Leverich III > President & CEO > Tech Software > (516) 627-3800 x11 > WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.TechSoftInc.com > > Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur. > (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.) > > > -- > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing > list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > -- michaelr_41@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service ------------------------------ message: 6 date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 09:25:59 -0400 from: "Adam Lang" <aalang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> subject: Re: Clarify i5 vs. iSeries please Haha. We still call ours an AS/400. i5s are specifically the POWER 5 chip based ones. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walden H. Leverich" <WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 9:11 AM Subject: Clarify i5 vs. iSeries please > All, > > Am I correct in my understanding that the "iSeries" name is _not_ going > away. The i5s are the "most recent member of the iSeries family" > according to the iSeries home page @ IBM. > > So if I wanted to correctly refer to what one of those machine that we > all have that run 5250 applications could I still correctly call it an > iSeries? > > -Walden > > ------------ > Walden H Leverich III > President & CEO > Tech Software > (516) 627-3800 x11 > WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.TechSoftInc.com > > Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur. > (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.) > > > -- > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. ------------------------------ message: 7 date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 09:29:28 -0400 from: "Walden H. Leverich" <WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> subject: RE: Clarify i5 vs. iSeries please >Sure...just like there were/are AS/400s before iSeries. That's where the confusion comes from though. I don't think it's the same. If I had an AS/400 sitting here, it's an AS/400. When I bought an iSeries it wasn't an AS/400, it was an iSeries. However, I think this is different. If I buy a new 570, I'm buying an i5, but I think I'm buying an iSeries i5, not just an i5. That is the new hardware is still correctly called an iSeries. -Walden ------------ Walden H Leverich III President & CEO Tech Software (516) 627-3800 x11 WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.TechSoftInc.com Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur. (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.) -----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of michaelr_41@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 9:19 AM To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion Subject: Re: Clarify i5 vs. iSeries please Sure...just like there were/are AS/400s before iSeries. On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 09:11:35 -0400, "Walden H. Leverich" <WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said: > All, > > Am I correct in my understanding that the "iSeries" name is _not_ going > away. The i5s are the "most recent member of the iSeries family" > according to the iSeries home page @ IBM. > > So if I wanted to correctly refer to what one of those machine that we > all have that run 5250 applications could I still correctly call it an > iSeries? > > -Walden > > ------------ > Walden H Leverich III > President & CEO > Tech Software > (516) 627-3800 x11 > WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.TechSoftInc.com > > Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur. > (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.) > > > -- > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing > list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > -- michaelr_41@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service -- This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. ------------------------------ message: 8 date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 09:42:04 -0400 from: michaelr_41@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx subject: RE: Clarify i5 vs. iSeries please Hmmm...I don't think so. I think there are three different variants - AS/400, iSeries, i5. 4 if you count the S/38. On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 09:29:28 -0400, "Walden H. Leverich" <WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said: > >Sure...just like there were/are AS/400s before iSeries. > > That's where the confusion comes from though. I don't think it's the > same. If I had an AS/400 sitting here, it's an AS/400. When I bought an > iSeries it wasn't an AS/400, it was an iSeries. However, I think this is > different. If I buy a new 570, I'm buying an i5, but I think I'm buying > an iSeries i5, not just an i5. That is the new hardware is still > correctly called an iSeries. > > -Walden > > ------------ > Walden H Leverich III > President & CEO > Tech Software > (516) 627-3800 x11 > WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.TechSoftInc.com > > Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur. > (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.) > > -----Original Message----- > From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > michaelr_41@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 9:19 AM > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion > Subject: Re: Clarify i5 vs. iSeries please > > Sure...just like there were/are AS/400s before iSeries. > > On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 09:11:35 -0400, "Walden H. Leverich" > <WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said: > > All, > > > > Am I correct in my understanding that the "iSeries" name is _not_ > going > > away. The i5s are the "most recent member of the iSeries family" > > according to the iSeries home page @ IBM. > > > > So if I wanted to correctly refer to what one of those machine that we > > all have that run 5250 applications could I still correctly call it an > > iSeries? > > > > -Walden > > > > ------------ > > Walden H Leverich III > > President & CEO > > Tech Software > > (516) 627-3800 x11 > > WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > http://www.TechSoftInc.com > > > > Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur. > > (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.) > > > > > > -- > > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing > > list > > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > > -- > > michaelr_41@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > -- > http://www.fastmail.fm - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service > -- > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing > list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > > -- > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing > list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > -- michaelr_41@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access your email from home and the web ------------------------------ message: 9 date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 09:58:14 -0400 from: "Walden H. Leverich" <WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> subject: RE: Clarify i5 vs. iSeries please > I think there are three different variants... That's what I thought at first, at that seems to be conventional wisdom, but then why call the i5 "the most recent member of the iSeries family" and more importantly, if all the new machines are eServer i5 machines and NOT iSeries machines why is IBM wasting what little advertising $$$ is has on "iSeries mySeries" stuff. Shouldn't it be advertising "i5, cool jive" or "i5, it's alive", or perhaps "i5, we strive" or some such thing? -Walden ------------ Walden H Leverich III President & CEO Tech Software (516) 627-3800 x11 WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.TechSoftInc.com Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur. 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