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IMHO, unless you already have an operations automation package with this kind of tool, it will often be cheaper to take the hit in down-time or buy the extra disk space! As I recall from my programming days, the IBM free-ware TAATOOL has a utility in it that will reorg for you. Kind regards, Jeffrey E. Bull OS400 Software Support Consultant IBM Certified Systems Expert, iSeries Technical Solutions IBM Certified Systems Specialist, AS/400 System Administration * +44 [0] 149 454 9533 swb. +44 [0] 149 454 9400 mbl. +44 [0] 786 750 4961 fax. +44 [0] 149 454 9454 web. http://www.itm-group.co.uk ITM Group Ltd, Latimer Square, White Lion Road, Amersham, Buckinghamshire, HP7 9JQ, United Kingdom -----Original Message----- From: fiona.fitzgerald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:fiona.fitzgerald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 28 April 2004 11:10 To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion Subject: Re: File Reorg - Cons OSD (OS Director) also handles this well. It allows you to schedule the file reorgs after hours - if a reorg would take too long, it doesn't run it. Considerations; Reorging a file doubles the size of the file while the process runs (a copy is created in QTEMP). Usually it's done when %age used disk space is already high. It can take hours to complete, depending not only on the file size but also on the amount of access paths. And to interrupt a reorg can damage the object. Or a cheap alternative would be to CPYF filename to copy COMPRESS(*YES) Compress out deleted records. CLRPFM the file, then CPYF copy to filename. Fiona Fitzgerald PaulMmn <PaulMmn@xxxxxxxxxxx To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx om> cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: File Reorg - Cons midrange-l-bounces@m idrange.com 28/04/04 04:44 Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion THIS MESSAGE ORIGINATED ON THE INTERNET - Please read the detailed disclaimer below. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- Lakeview Technology (of Mimix fame) offers a product that allows you to reorganize a file while things are live... all it takes is disk space at least as big as the original file. The file is reorganized, along with its logical views. At a Magic Moment when all activity against the file has ended, the application swaps out the old file with the deleted records, and swaps in the shiny new reorganized copy. It works very well. --Paul E Musselman __________________________________ Notice of Confidentiality This transmission contains information that may be confidential and that may also be privileged. Unless you are the intended recipient of the message (or authorised to receive it for the intended recipient) you may not copy, forward, or otherwise use it, or disclose it or its contents to anyone else. If you have received this transmission in error please notify us immediately and delete it from your system. 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