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1) Since Websphere can run on the Wintel platform, should that be a knock against that platform also? 2) Is it IBM's fault that there are still lots of people using SEU, PDM, and that genre, versus CODE or WDSC? You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. I know that CODE is probably in it's double digits of life years. 3) What makes a tool 'native'? The fact that it will run on no other platform? Rob Berendt -- Group Dekko Services, LLC Dept 01.073 PO Box 2000 Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755 http://www.dekko.com "Reeve" <news@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 04/27/2004 02:12 PM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject RE: Need some idea's, direction, etc. In the interest of critical thinking, it always helps to consider your opponents' likely arguments so you're positioned with facts (and marketing materials). I suggest a chapter on the iSeries urban legends. What's the long-time biggest knock on the iSeries? It's a "closed box", right? All he has to do is point out the largest PDF in the IBM iSeries library: the API manual. The API's give technical users a usually (library list...) consistent interface into non-critical areas of the system...and then Chuck jr. should ask his questioners what function they WANT to access, but can't, through an API. Another major deficiency: perceived uncoolness because of its green-screen legacy. I have few dealings with web serving, but my impression is that the platform doesn't matter much: it's still a mess compared to quick, safe, and efficient green-screen interactive applications. Read this one carefully: there are no native development tools for the non-green environment. WebSphere ought to be a knock too, I think, as should be the extremely poor job IBM has done, overall, in providing development tools (look at the number of folks today who haven't solo'ed on anything but the 20-year-old SEU and SDA). But there are plenty of good things: unbeatable batch/interactive job control (the whole OS/400 work management deal, with priorities, etc.); ability of different languages to talk to one another; scalability, communications capability, a large, moderately-priced work force (too many of whom pound away daily on SEU), and, on a big-picture basis, system-wide stability which essentially eliminates the requirement for full-time system programmers and administrators. Regards, Reeve Fritchman Ayers Rock Software LLC 4915 S. West Shore Boulevard Tampa, Florida 33611-3329 (813) 831-8574 (voice) (813) 832-6391 (fax) > -----Original Message----- > From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l- > bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chuck Lewis > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 1:31 PM > To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion' > Subject: Need some idea's, direction, etc. > > Hi Folks, > > > > Unreal; my son is in the IT program at IUPUI (Indiana University/Purdue > University/Indianapolis) and they have a paper to write on any operating > system and why they think it is the best and guess what ? OS/400 is actually > one of the choices ! > > > > So he is NOT looking for any of us/you to write this paper for him and I > have given him a copy of Dr. Frank's book. He is just needing some real > world examples, etc. to better understand all of this and present it to "the > unenlightened masses". He knows from a long time back that the > AS/400/iSeries and OS/400 have meant "dad could be home" when my other > cohorts were in at all hours working on failed servers, messed up OS's, etc. > :-) > > > > Willing to help ? It will no doubt REALLY open some eyes. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Chuck > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. _______________________________________________ This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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