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Re: Apple iMac and Webfacing

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: <michaelr_41@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: Apple iMac and Webfacing


> I think I speak for all of us when I say that I appreciate you
> sacrificing romance for code purity. Besides, open source people are
> hotter anyway. :)
>
> On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 16:55:32 -0500, "Adam Lang"
> <aalang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said:
> > Didn't have any around?  What kind of bullshit answer is tha?  All the
> > Mozilla browsers are Open Source and free and nealry all of them have
> > Windows binaries.
> >
> > That is just a lame and lazy and horrid excuse.  That is EXACTLY what
> > they
> > are saying.  They have no desire to support other browsers.  That
> > developer
> > is the poster boy for the web developers I dislike.  I even got into
> > trouble
> > for that once.  I was dating a girl who was a developer and I sort of
got
> > into that a bit and she says "the application I am working on at work
> > only
> > works with IE ..." talk about in trouble :p  Of course she changed
> > development to a Flash interface as oppsoed to the microsoft DOM and XML
> > interface they were goign to do, so as to suppor other browsers.  So I
> > gues
> > it wasn't for naught ... a shame I sacrificed a girlfriend for the
> > browser
> > agnostic war. ;)
> >
> > And Microsoft won't build a version of IE.  One, because the majority of
> > linux users despise Microsoft applications and two, Microsoft would then
> > be
> > giving crdit to Linux.  Hell, look how long it took before they made
> > Office
> > and IE for Mac.
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: <michaelr_41@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 4:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: Apple iMac and Webfacing
> >
> >
> > > Guess the Mozilla market isn't big enough. I talked with a developer
> > > about this once, and he said that they develop and test using Windows
and
> > > IE. So it wasn't so much a matter of not supporting other browsers -
they
> > > just didn't have any around. But...if you embraced the IBM Linux
message
> > > and direction, you would be SOL when it comes to things like
Webfacing. I
> > > don't think Microsoft has built a version of IE for Linux yet. :)
> > >
> > > On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 16:27:45 -0500, "Adam Lang"
> > > <aalang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said:
> > > > well, Safari and Firewfox run the mozilla engine, so is no suprise
> > > > Netscape
> > > > wouldn't work either.  They all run Mozilla.
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: <michaelr_41@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion"
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 3:55 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Apple iMac and Webfacing
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Alas...you're right...IBM should support browsers in
general...btw,
> > > > > Netscape won't work with Webfacing either. It has to be IE 5.5 or
6.0
> > on
> > > > > a Windows platform - so much for open systems. Of course, WDSC
doesn't
> > > > > work on anything but Windows either...isn't this the 'I love Java'
> > > > > company?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 14:37:40 -0600, "trevor perry"
> > > > > <trevorp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said:
> > > > > > One of the other problems that you have is that IE on a Mac is
no
> > longer
> > > > > > developed. They stopped at 5.2.3 (no relationship to Win IE
> > versions)
> > > > and
> > > > > > have not updated it since. They apparently refuse to do so b/c
of
> > Apple
> > > > > > releasing Safari as their browser of choice.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The ~one~ thing I dislike about my Mac is the Microsoft
software. I
> > > > doubt
> > > > > > you will get any relief..
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > > > Subject: Apple iMac and Webfacing
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anyone have any ideas why an iMac would have problems
accessing a
> > > > > > > Webfaced page? It looks like Webfacing is choking on Unicode
> > (UTF-8),
> > > > but
> > > > > > > the iMac is using Unicode and Webfacing is setup to use
Unicode.
> > Can't
> > > > > > > access the page with Safari or Firefox at all (since it's not
IE).
> > IE
> > > > 5.2
> > > > > > > gets the Unicode error, and Opera responding as IE 5.0 gets a
'get
> > a
> > > > > > > later browser' error.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > IBM (lack of) support says...'Webfacing doesn't support Macs',
> > which I
> > > > > > > feel is kinda lame. IBM doesn't seem to know much about
> > > > Webfacing...I've
> > > > > > > had some long delays with support requests...it's almost not
worth
> > the
> > > > > > > time spent on the phone.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cross posting to Ignite.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any ideas appreciated.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - Michael
> > > > > >
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