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RE: Anyone ever had an iSeries stolen?

Probably correct :-)

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Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 2:54 PM
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Subject: RE: Anyone ever had an iSeries stolen?

They'd take the 810 - thinking it was one honking big PC server.

Rob Berendt
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Group Dekko Services, LLC
Dept 01.073
PO Box 2000
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6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
http://www.dekko.com





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RE: Anyone ever had an iSeries stolen?






I was just on our Computer Room and I'm think about just leaving our 620
(replaced by an 810 last September) in there and running. It is bigger 
than
the 810 and in a more obvious placement so maybe someone looking for a box
would think bigger is better and take the 620 (since it is worth NOTHING)
LOL

Chuck

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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pete Helgren
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 12:20 PM
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Subject: RE: Anyone ever had an iSeries stolen?

Just an update on where I am in this process:

Turns out there *is* a way to track a stolen iSeries so if it actually 
does
get sold to someone who puts it on maintenance or contacts IBM about it, 
it
will show up as stolen.

I was musing about how awesome the iSeries community is.  The numerous
offers, off list, to temporarily host us. Laura Green who is iSeries
Developer Lease & Discount Coordinator, has been checking in daily to see 
if
she can help in expediting a replacement.  I got an off-list e-mail from
Anne Lucas, iSeries Retention Program Manager & Customer Relationships,
checking in to see what she could do.

If this had been a Sun, or HP, or a (heavens no!) Dell box, I wouldn't 
have
gotten the time of day unless I was interested in forking out cash for the
new box first.  Laura and Anne have been interested in helping my business
get going again, not just selling or leasing another iSeries.  Everyone,
from my IBM contacts to you folks on the Midrange list, have been very
helpful.

Very cool to be part of this community.  Even after 18 years of midrange
experiences, I still have pleasant surprises. Can't say that about any 
other
company on the planet.

Pete Helgren
Value Added Software, Inc.






> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jeff Bull
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 9:25 AM
> To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
> Subject: RE: Anyone ever had an iSeries stolen? (Don)
>
>
> Personally no, but a recruitment agency I once visited in the
> good old days,
> had an F20 (I think).  Their office was broken into and all the 
electronic
> stuff went, PCs, printers, faxes ... and the AS/400; I doubt the thieves
> knew what it was they were taking.  Since they chopped off all the 
cables,
> including the local workstation controller, I bet they ended up
> dumping it.
>
> Crooks these days seem to steal to order, and they know what they
> are after
> and leave everything else.  We had a spate of burglaries where
> they took big
> plasma screens and left untouched PCs, and even Compaq servers
> and laptops.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Jeffrey E. Bull
> OS400 Software Support Consultant
>
> IBM Certified Systems Expert, iSeries Technical Solutions
> IBM Certified Systems Specialist, AS/400 System Administration
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shields, Ken [mailto:kenshields@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 28 January 2004 16:05
> To: 'Midrange Mailing LIst'
> Subject: RE: Anyone ever had an iSeries stolen? (Don)
>
>
> Hi Gang...
>                                Me thinks a better tact would be to have 
IBM scrap any
> serial number tracing scheme, and just let
>                                lots of AS400's be stolen.
>
>                                Once stolen, the new 'owners', would then 
want to update
> themselves , sign up on a maintenance contract,
>                                and voila!..the AS400 is now more popular 
than ever.(The
> insurance companies might object)
>
>                                Five years ago, I read an article that 
indicated that MS was
> prepared to lose something the the neighbourhood of
>                                $500 mil annually, to stolen software, 
knowing full well
> that it would expand the MS world, and those same
>                                individuals would eventually be back.
>                                Sort of surfs on the boundaries of 
Ethics...
>
>
> Ken Shields
> Oshawa systems group
> Works 81, Oshawa Ontario
> (905) 725-1144 Ext 326
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