Re: RE; runrmtcmd and V5R2 -- MIDRANGE-L

Eric

I assume you do not work out of the Americas division as far as IBM is concerned. But this is how it works here. The PTF download page has you select the hemisphere where you are located. Other entitlement information comes, I assume, from the contact information on your iSeries. Ordersw can be made for a single machine, or for multiple machines. In the latter case, I believe more of the co- and pre-reqs are included.

For V5R2, let me recommend using the virtual CD facility - also called image catalogs. It's a way of putting CD images on DASD. Once loaded, you don't need to stand around to switch CDs in the drive. Setup is pretty easy - should be something on InfoCenter - search on "image catalog".

For earlier releases, you need to burn your own CDs from the downloaded images.

Downloading can take "forever" on slower connections. Just imagine downloading a 650meg file! We have a 256k DSL at work that CAN go to 768 download, which is almost tolerable. Also, I sometimes use a download manager - FreshDevices.com has one (no ads), IBM has one - to speed things up. At home I'm on an up to 1.5m-down cable connection, but then need to get the images to work somehow.

Even if you order CDs, you can load them into an image catalog and make the actual installation easier.

Getting registered for Internet PTF ordering is simple, it's the same ID as used for most other stuff now. I'm not sure of the support requirements for downloading PTFs - it's probably the same as using SNDPTFORD.

HIPER and databse group PTFs are included with a CUME order. Check out the web for other groups, for anything you have installed. This'd include HTTP, Java, BRMS, etc.

There's also a page that lists recommended PTFs for some products, such as TCP/IP, for which there is no group.

HTH
Vern

At 03:26 PM 11/21/2003 -0500, you wrote:

If you want to order them via the internet, have a high speed connection
and want to ftp them down you can via:
http://as400service.rochester.ibm.com/p_dir/ptforder.nsf

You can also order them on media from that same site and it will come
Airborne or whatever is applicable to your geography.

You'll have to have an account.

You can still order them from your iSeries with SNDPTFORD:

The ptf's you'll want to order are:
SF99520 - cume
SF99519 - will send one with cume automatically
SF99502 - will send one with cume automatically
Strongly recommend, and will NOT come with cume automatically, that you
view the following web site and pick any other groups applicable to your
situation:
http://www-912.ibm.com/s_dir/sline003.NSF/GroupPTFs?OpenView&view=GroupPTFs


By the way, your business partner is incompetent.  Or 'perhaps there was a
miscommunication'.  The last few releases IBM has started to automatically
ship a cume, hiper and DB group along with the masters.  However they were
separate disks and needed to be applied via GO PTF and didn't just
magically appear.  IBM may have stopped this policy due to the long delay
many customers did in between ordering the media and actually applying the
media.  IBM wants you to use a more current cume than one a year or so
out.

Rob Berendt
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safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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I confirm, the first PTF I see is RE03212 for the 5722999
You scared me too. We have in plane all our customers from V4R5 to V5R2
(about 30 AS400). This one was the first one.
When we received the CD I noticed there is no PTF inside (for all of
them) but the local IBM agency told me : now all PTF are pre-loaded on
the masters CD... It seems wrong and it doesn't surprise me because
people in the local IBM agency are not really up to date...
Any way if you can explain me how to order a CUM it will be great. I did
that in the past through the AS400 but I think now it is an Internet
procedure...
Sometime it's not so easy to be in Tahiti and keep contact with the real
world... but the weather is sweet...

Much thanks for your help,

Eric PANISSARD
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Let me see if I understand.

If you do a DSPPTF 5722999 what is the first to appear?

You really scared me with a couple of things.
An 'RE' ptf should never be either the first or the last.  The first
should be some TL..... ptf's.  For example on ours we have TL03252 at
the
top and at the bottom (and it's a BIG bottom) we have MF28332.

If your ptf list does not begin with a TL then I strongly suggest that
you
apply a cume CD NOW!!!!  Do you know how to order a CUME?  If not, we'll

step you through that.

I am not sure if IBM is shipping a cume with OS Upgrades anymore. Turns

out that numerous people would get the latest release in and stick it on
a
shelf for a year.  By then the cume was hopelessly out of date.

Rob Berendt
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QTCP user seems ok
If I look the TCP spool file I can't see any spool QRTXC...

For your information there are 2 AS400 (product and backup) and the
result is the same for the both systems. I upgrade the two machines from
V4R5 to V5R2 the same week. May be there is a couple of PTF to apply ?
If I check the last one of 5722999 I can see RE03212

Eric PANISSARD

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