RE: GO PTF, 8. Install program temporary fix package, prior to sa ve

We IPL once a month whether we need to or not, and I have always done the
Install of PTF packages prior to the save.  Using Option 8 immediate PTF's
will apply immediately and delayed PTF's will be set to apply at IPL time.
Immediate PTF's that require an action, like restarting TCP or MQ Series,
etc. will show a status of "Temporarily applied - ACN"

It is important to remember that your save will save the system with the
PTF's in the status that they are in at the time of the save.  In other
words, if you did for some reason have to reload the system using this
backup the delayed PTF's would need to be reapplied.  If one of the PTF's
was responsible for the reload you would need to remove it before IPLing or
use an earlier backup.

I would also recommend that you get familiar with the processes for removing
PTF's, both temporarily and permanently.

On your concerns:
1.)     IMHO I do not think that it is dangerous to load/apply ptf's prior
to the save.  Some will disagree with me.
2.)     Your running applications should not be affected by this.  Immediate
PTF's will either require an action or will not affect the running program,
only the next restart.  The LODPTF command (using the defaults) will
permanently apply superseded PTFs.

Regards,
Scott Ingvaldson
AS/400 System Administrator
GuideOne Insurance Group

-----Original Message-----
date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 16:47:16 -0500
from: rob@xxxxxxxxx
subject: GO PTF, 8. Install program temporary fix package, prior to
        save

Currently, when doing our downtimes, we do:
RCLSTG, etc,
Save of entire system
Some cleanup.
GO PTF
8. Install program temporary fix package


However, since we are moving to Virtual Optical drives instead of the CD's 
I am thinking of doing the GO PTF, 8, earlier in the week and not telling 
it to IPL.  That will free up some save time since now there won't be that 
3GB used up by the virtual optical drives.

Concerns are these:
1)  Is it dangerous to load/apply these ptf's prior to the save?
2)  I realize that the GO PTF, 8, is a delayed ptf.  However do some of 
these apply immediate even if you tell it delayed?  I think I recall there 
were even certain ptf's that simply doing a LODPTF on automatically 
applied them; and permanently.  I wouldn't want to affect running 
applications by doing this.


Rob Berendt
   
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