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I tain't Paul.

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Paul - did I read that you use live data for testing?  Apart from
possible data protection legislation (I assume that you have that in the
USA?) there is always the possibility that the orders could get through
to the factory for picking.  If the data is scrambled then it satisfies
both the conditions to avoid being carried through by picking and also
doesn't include any real customer information.

I'm glad to see you test batch jobs - but is this all done manually?

Jamie 


-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeffry Kennedy
Sent: 21 July 2003 15:13
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Test Development System Survey

We have a single 820, with an LPAR for testing. Our LPAR has 10 % of the
processor and 256 meg of memory, DASD is 10 - 4.5 GIG drives. I only use
it to
test new software. We don't do any in-house development, all our
applications are
packages.

PaulMmn wrote:

> We have 2 main boxes-- one is all live, the other split live/test.
>
> First, you need to have separate libraries for data, programs, and
> source code.  If you haven't done it, do it!   (:
>
> The next biggest thing is setting up security so that production
> libraries are not usable by programmers!  We feel that authority
> should allow programmers to -read- live data, -use- live programs,
> and -read- live source.  This means that all a programmer needs to
> test is a library where copies of the production files can live.  A
> little juggling of the library list gives complete isolation from
> production:
>
> LIVE ENVIRONMENT:
>
>         DATALIVE
>         PROGRAMLIVE
>         ...
>
> TEST ENVIRONMENT:
>
>         DATATEST
>         PROGRAMTEST
>         PROGRAMLIVE
>         ...
>
> This means that the PROGRAMTEST library only needs the new objects
> being developed or changed.  Existing objects in PROGRAMLIVE are used
> just as if it were a production environment.
>
> This also works for library lists in job descriptions.  Means you can
> test batch jobs without affecting production data!
>
> We include output queues in our DATALIVE/DATATEST libraries (well,
> not all of them-- QUSRSYS has a bunch of output queues).  Including
> them in the DATAxxx libraries means we can use production names, and
> not have test orders going to the warehouse for picking.  (:
>
> --Paul E Musselman
> PaulMmn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> >We are currently using our AS400 production box for development as
well (the
> >test/production systems are separated by logins/environment
variables). How
> >many of you all also combine both on one machine, and has this caused
> >performance problems for you? Or do you use a test machine for
development
> >specifically because of this (or wish you had one)?
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