RE: EDIINT AS2 -- MIDRANGE-L

I had forgotten about the VAN option - I know that our VAN, Inovis,
offers AS2 as a service. The question is - can you still connect to them
via dial-up and gain the same benefits that you are looking for?

Bob Cagle
IT Manager
Lynk, Inc.
8241 Melrose Drive
Lenexa, KS  66214
913-492-9202 ext.41
mailto:bcagle@xxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: Carl Galgano [mailto:cgalgano2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 3:01 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: EDIINT AS2 

Tim:
I think you have hit your 2 choices.
1.  Poke a hole in the firewall and only allow certain IP addresses to
access the port you assign to the AS2 server, or 2. put a box in the
DMZ.
Basically the AS2 server is a web server, so how do you handle access to
your web server now?  Why not put the AS2 server on the same box, the
web
server listens on port 80, the AS2 server listens on port 5080.

I suppose you could also outsource your AS2 communications, and then
pick up
the data as if you were talking to a VAN.

Good luck.
cjg

Carl J. Galgano
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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hatzenbeler, Tim
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 3:31 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: EDIINT AS2 


I only wish it was that simple... I approached our networking team, and
said
the exact thing, open up port 5080 or whatever, and only allow 3 ip's to
connect to it, but they said the IP's could be spoofed, at then I told
them
that the tool I use cleo's lexicom, and it will only process the data
that
passes the digital certificate, and that still didn't convince them.

So I was thinking about placing this as2 in the DMZ but they don't like
having data exposed like that either.

Were in the health care field, and even though my transactions do not
include patient data, our network policy is very tight (which it should
be)
so I'm stumped on how to make this work where everyone is happy, and at
an
affordable cost.

tim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Cagle [SMTP:bcagle@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 11:55 AM
> To:   Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> Subject:      RE: EDIINT AS2 
> 
> Well, I have implemented AS2 strictly because of customer requirements

> (read Wal-Mart!).  As I said before, we utilized Trailblazer's EDIINT 
> solution.  I don't claim to be a network expert (far from it 
> actually), but all I had to do was open up specific ports on my Cisco 
> firewall only for my trading partner's specific IP addresses to use 
> for this to work.
> 
> 
> I am not sure what you mean by it being a push only service - but if 
> your customers are requiring you to go to AS2, then your network 
> police are just going to have to figure out how to make it work, IMHO.
> 
> What is your application?  We are a manufacturer selling to retail.
> 
> Bob Cagle
> IT Manager
> Lynk, Inc.
> 8241 Melrose Drive
> Lenexa, KS  66214
> 913-492-9202 ext.41
> mailto:bcagle@xxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hatzenbeler, Tim [mailto:thatzenbeler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 1:39 PM
> To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
> Subject: EDIINT AS2 Question was RE: ARGH! Please make it STOP!
> 
> I was wondering, if anybody has experience with AS2,  I have been 
> asked to research it's viablity for our company, but it has one 
> glaring problem I can't get around.  AS2 seems to be a push only 
> service, so if I push data to
> our Trading Partner, I must then break the connection and wait for a
> reply,
> (here is the problem)  our network police has a zero toloerance when
it
> comes to listening ports.  So I can't seem to figure out if I can make
> this
> technology work for us.  I was wondering if anyone else has
implemented
> AS2,
> and how did they make their network police happy?
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
> 
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