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----- Original Message ----- From: <midrange-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 8:55 AM Subject: MIDRANGE-L Digest, Vol 2, Issue 492 > Send MIDRANGE-L mailing list submissions to > midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > midrange-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > You can reach the person managing the list at > midrange-l-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of MIDRANGE-L digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: WRKJOBSCDE, library lists, and user ids. (rob@xxxxxxxxx) > 2. RE: Run command over multiple files? (Buck Calabro) > 3. RE: Eclipse (rob@xxxxxxxxx) > 4. RE: Refresh Question...... (Chuck Lewis) > 5. Re: Run command over multiple files? (Steve Landess) > 6. Re: MIDRANGE-L Digest, Vol 2, Issue 479 (rob@xxxxxxxxx) > 7. RE: Run command over multiple files? (Chevalier, Rick) > 8. RE: Run command over multiple files? (Draper, Dale) > 9. Re: V5R2 Programming Benefits and New Tools (rob@xxxxxxxxx) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > message: 1 > date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 10:13:52 -0500 > from: rob@xxxxxxxxx > subject: Re: WRKJOBSCDE, library lists, and user ids. > > 1) We've gotten out of the habit of using 10-Submit Immediately. It > often will use many of the features of your current environment. Instead > we'll just change the entry to a time about 30 seconds into the future. > Don't know how many times we use 10 and it worked great only to find it > failed when ran during the night. Therefore 10 is not a valid test. > > 2) On an addjobscde, and NOT on submit immediately, it should use the > library list of the job description listed in the JOBD portion of > ADDJOBSCDE. If you find this not to be true, then there is one way to > gain some more insurance. Instead of putting a call directly on the > command, have it do a SBMJOB. Sample: > ADDJOBSCDE JOB(RICHARD) > CMD(SBMJOB CMD(CALL PGM(MYPGM)) JOB(RICHARDJS) > JOBD(MYLIB/MYJOBD) PRTDEV(*JOBD) OUTQ(*JOBD) > USER(*JOBD) INLLIBL(*JOBD)) > FRQ(*WEEKLY) > SCDDATE(*NONE) > SCDDAY(*MON) > SCDTIME('08:00') > Remembering to prompt on the SBMJOB command and override numerous of the > defaults away from *CURRENT, *USER, etc. > > Rob Berendt > -- > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." > Benjamin Franklin > > > > > "Richard B Baird" <rbaird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent by: midrange-l-bounces+rob=dekko.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx > 04/02/2003 02:49 PM > Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion > > To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx > cc: > Fax to: > Subject: WRKJOBSCDE, library lists, and user ids. > > > hey all, > > I'm more than just a little perplexed with the behaviour of WRKJOBSCDE. > > It appears that everytime you either add, change or submit immediately a > scheduled job, you must have your library list set so that the job will > run > properly. > > When you add an entry, it appears to use the current library list when it > runs. > > When you make a change to the entry, it appears to reset the library list > you run it under to your current library list. > > When it is submitted immediately, it appears to run under userid in the > USER parameter, but whoever submitted the job gets the submit and job end > messages. > > Does this sound right? I would think that it would use the initial > library > list of the jobd, or the user's initial libl, or that from his jobd. but > not the current library list. > > Is there someplace I can look to verify the rules for using WRKJOBSCDE? > > thanks, > > Rick > > > _______________________________________________ > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing > list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > > > ------------------------------ > > message: 2 > date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 10:35:00 -0500 > from: Buck Calabro <Buck.Calabro@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > subject: RE: Run command over multiple files? > > >CHGLF FILE(F0003LA) ACCPTHSIZ(*MAX1TB) > > > >Is there a different way to submit this command > >so to change/update more than one file at a time? > > I use PDM for this sort of thing. Create a user-defined option on > WRKOBJPDM. Limit/filter by LF attribute and use F13 to replicate your > command to all the LFs. > --buck > > ------------------------------ > > message: 3 > date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 10:37:47 -0500 > from: rob@xxxxxxxxx > subject: RE: Eclipse > > Expounding upon David's comments. Eclipse is a development environment. > It is not a runtime environment. (Not to offend Jon), but it would be > like saying "With SEU and Java can I run this application on multiple > platforms?" Well, you could develop Java with SEU but you wouldn't need > SEU to run it on other computers. > > Rob Berendt > -- > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." > Benjamin Franklin > > > > > David Gibbs <david@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx > 04/02/2003 05:27 PM > Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion > > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion > <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > cc: > Fax to: > Subject: RE: Eclipse > > > At 04:10 PM 4/2/2003, you wrote: > >With Eclipse and Java can a simple application be written that displays a > >subfile of names & addresses that are located on an iSeries and can > display > >a photo (stored on the IFS) of an individual selected from the subfile? > > Well, yes ... but that has nothing at all to do with Eclipse. With JAVA > you can write that application. > > >If yes, can that application run on Windows XP, Linux, and Mac OS/X? > > Yes, that's the nature of Java. You can even run that application on the > 400, I think (haven't actually tried it). > > david > > > _______________________________________________ > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing > list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > > > ------------------------------ > > message: 4 > date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 10:19:25 -0500 > from: "Chuck Lewis" <clewis@xxxxxxxxxx> > subject: RE: Refresh Question...... > > WOW - Lazy is an understatement. Do they want you to roll them around in > their chairs TOO ? :-) > > Have they not been trained to get rid of the messages that aren't needed, > etc. ? I guess you have tried to instill in them the need to not "sit" on > that screen to no avail. > > Bucks idea sounds like a very good one ! > > Chuck > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steven Segars Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 8:52 AM > To: 'midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx' > Subject: Refresh Question...... > > <We have a LAZY help desk and they monitor the QSYSOPR message queue and > they leave it on that screen all the time. When the sprit moves them, they > press the F5 key to update the screen to see if theirs any messages out > there that need looking at. They ask me if there was a way to automatically > invoke the F5 (REFRESH) key without them having to press it. I know I will > have to create a new display screen like the WRKSYSACT one that can be set > up to automatically update, but I was just wondering if someone knows of a > tool that already does this without me having to recreate it?> > > > ------------------------------ > > message: 5 > date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 09:41:59 -0600 > from: "Steve Landess" <steve_landess@xxxxxxxxxxx> > subject: Re: Run command over multiple files? > > Dale - write a Q&D CL program to make these changes... > > 1) Make &LIBRARY a parameter for the program so you can run it against each > of your data libraries > > 2) Declare file QSYS/QAFDLGL in you program > > 3) DSPFD FILE(&LIBRARY/*ALL) TYPE(*ATR) OUTPUT(*OUTFILE) FILEATR(*LF) > OUTFILE(Q > TEMP/QAFDLGL) > > 4) OVRDBF FILE(QAFDLGL) TOFILE(QTEMP/QAFDLGL) > > 5) Read QAFDLGL using RCVF > > 6) (upon EOF (MONMSG CPF0864), end program) > > 7) CHGLF FILE(&LGFILE) ACCPTHSIZ(*MAX1TB) > > 8) GOTO 5 > > Steve Landess > Austin, Texas > (512) 423-0935 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Draper, Dale" <dale.draper@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 8:37 AM > Subject: Run command over multiple files? > > > > > > We are running JD Edwards here and upgrading to V5R2 this weekend. One > > problem that JDE has is performance issues related to some new values. > Seems > > that there can large performance hits if the logical files are not changed > > as shown: > > > > CHGLF FILE(F0003LA) ACCPTHSIZ(*MAX1TB) > > > > Well, there are at least 300 (out of 1000's) logicals that I should do > this > > for immediately. > > Is there a different way to submit this command so to change/update more > > than one file at a time? FILE(F0003*) does not work. :( > > > > TIA > > > > Dale > > _______________________________________________ > > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing > list > > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > message: 6 > date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 10:44:28 -0500 > from: rob@xxxxxxxxx > subject: Re: MIDRANGE-L Digest, Vol 2, Issue 479 > > There are lies, damned lies, and statistics. > > Whether or not using new technologies is more cost effective to you is > often based on what you wanted, (or your comfort zone) in the first place. > > If you want to use the new features, then it is more cost effective, > stable, etc. > If you don't want to use the new features, then the old methods are more > cost effective, stable, etc. > > Much as IBM is touting this new white paper out about how great the TCO of > Linux is. Pretty amazing that they based against some of their > competitors but left out 400's and 390's. > > Rob Berendt > -- > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." > Benjamin Franklin > > > > > Jan Megannon <jmegannon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx > 04/02/2003 06:09 PM > Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion > > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion > <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > cc: > Fax to: > Subject: Re: MIDRANGE-L Digest, Vol 2, Issue 479 > > > E Doc wrote: > > >You are the exception, Buck. I would say 90-95% of the people I meet in > >various AS/400 shops are scared of: > > > >C > >C++ > >Java > >UNIX > >Linux > >Perl > >Python > >ILE > >Monsters under the bed > > > >-Doc > > > >__________________________________________________ > > > > > Doc, > > In some ways I agree with you and in others not. Many of those who are > in favour of the various combinations of > languages/platforms/environments may be developers/tech-heads. Not to > say that all of them are that way inclined! > > Many of the customers I interact with are concerned about things such as: > Once these technologies are implemented, how easy is it to > employ/contract a skill to support it? > Considering the speed of change in technology, will I in 12 to 24 months > be able to get a skill that can support the mutation of languages in > which the solution was developed? > > From a developer's perspective it is great to be able to provide > solutions as the customers want it, with the employer providing us the > opportunity to employ or prove our skills within the various languages. > These employers are getting tired of paying for our toys. They want > solutions that provide: > functionality, > simplicity > ease of use > maintainability > allow them to provide all of the above by employing a maximum of two > people during the life-cycle of the app (in the case of small shops with > in-house developers!) > > It can be said these companies often stay behind in terms of the > advancement of technology, but that is a relative statement.To use an > example (albeit a lousy one!), how many users that you know use the > enhanced functionality within EXCEL in Office 2000 over that in Office > 95? Does this equate to 10% Probably not. The only thing that faster > systems has provided some customers is that they can now mess up at > 70CPW instead of at 25 CPW!!!! Until such a time as we start providing > them with what they want, when they want it at the cost they want it > (which is always for free :-) ), they will be more and more loathe to > throw funds our way. The perception within many companies (locally, as I > cannot vouch for you guys) is that I.T. is a Cost Centre and not a > Profit Centre. Once we can start providing them with solutions and not > just solutions with constant upgrades in terms of techonology (h/w and > s/w), they may start adopting a more positive attitude towards us! > > Hey, I may be wrong> What are the opinions out there? > > Jan. > > _______________________________________________ > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing > list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > > > ------------------------------ > > message: 7 > date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 09:44:41 -0600 > from: "Chevalier, Rick" <Rick.Chevalier@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > subject: RE: Run command over multiple files? > > Is there a way to do it programmatically? > > Display logical files using DSPFD into an outfile. Select the ones to > change and then issue the CHGLF command on those. > > Rick > > -----Original Message----- > From: Draper, Dale [mailto:dale.draper@xxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 8:37 AM > To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion' > Subject: Run command over multiple files? > > > We are running JD Edwards here and upgrading to V5R2 this weekend. One > problem that JDE has is performance issues related to some new values. Seems > that there can large performance hits if the logical files are not changed > as shown: > > CHGLF FILE(F0003LA) ACCPTHSIZ(*MAX1TB) > > Well, there are at least 300 (out of 1000's) logicals that I should do this > for immediately. > Is there a different way to submit this command so to change/update more > than one file at a time? FILE(F0003*) does not work. :( > > TIA > > Dale > _______________________________________________ > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > ------------------------------ > > message: 8 > date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 07:48:26 -0800 > from: "Draper, Dale" <dale.draper@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > subject: RE: Run command over multiple files? > > Beautiful. Thank you sir. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Landess [mailto:steve_landess@xxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 7:42 AM > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion > Cc: dale.draper@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: Run command over multiple files? > > > Dale - write a Q&D CL program to make these changes... > > 1) Make &LIBRARY a parameter for the program so you can run it against each > of your data libraries > > 2) Declare file QSYS/QAFDLGL in you program > > 3) DSPFD FILE(&LIBRARY/*ALL) TYPE(*ATR) OUTPUT(*OUTFILE) FILEATR(*LF) > OUTFILE(Q > TEMP/QAFDLGL) > > 4) OVRDBF FILE(QAFDLGL) TOFILE(QTEMP/QAFDLGL) > > 5) Read QAFDLGL using RCVF > > 6) (upon EOF (MONMSG CPF0864), end program) > > 7) CHGLF FILE(&LGFILE) ACCPTHSIZ(*MAX1TB) > > 8) GOTO 5 > > Steve Landess > Austin, Texas > (512) 423-0935 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Draper, Dale" <dale.draper@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 8:37 AM > Subject: Run command over multiple files? > > > > > > We are running JD Edwards here and upgrading to V5R2 this weekend. One > > problem that JDE has is performance issues related to some new values. > Seems > > that there can large performance hits if the logical files are not changed > > as shown: > > > > CHGLF FILE(F0003LA) ACCPTHSIZ(*MAX1TB) > > > > Well, there are at least 300 (out of 1000's) logicals that I should do > this > > for immediately. > > Is there a different way to submit this command so to change/update more > > than one file at a time? FILE(F0003*) does not work. :( > > > > TIA > > > > Dale > > _______________________________________________ > > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing > list > > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > message: 9 > date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 10:54:59 -0500 > from: rob@xxxxxxxxx > subject: Re: V5R2 Programming Benefits and New Tools > > I would go to both the V5R1 InfoCenter, and the V5R2 InfoCenter and read > the area's that either interest your IT Group, or you think they should be > interested in. Not knowing your shop (RPG vs COBOL, etc) there are > several manuals that have a section "How this manual has changed" or some > such name. > > Now often, it has been my discovery that a little review may be necessary > because some of the group may not be aware of anything since V2R1. Sample: > "In the past we had the following enhancements to RPG: > V3R2 > ... > V4R1 > ... > ... > Now, (marching band starts playing) we've had the following great > enhancements in V5R1 (list them) and V5R2 (list them)" > > I think the RPG redbook did some of this for you. > > Repeat for database (Yes, you may have to discuss SQL - get over it. :-), > CODE/400, iSeries Navigator, etc. > > > Rob Berendt > -- > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." > Benjamin Franklin > > > > > "Peter Vidal" <Peter_Vidal@xxxxxxxx> > Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx > 04/02/2003 03:08 PM > Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion > > To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx > cc: > Fax to: > Subject: V5R2 Programming Benefits and New Tools > > > Hi list. I have to prepare a brief presentation to our IT Group about the > virtues and new tools that are part of the new operating system level. We > are > on V4R5 so we have never "tasted" the good things of V5R1. Can you guide > me to > good links were this information is clear and simple to understand besides > the > IBM pages? > > I have this link: > http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/iseries/announce/ > > But I know that there should be other ways to present this information. > > Thanks in advance! > Peter Vidal > Pall Aeropower Corp. > SR Programmer Analyst > WWW.Pall.com / 727-539-8448, x2414 > > "A good player makes himself look good; > a great player makes the team look good." > Author unknown > > > _______________________________________________ > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing > list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) digest list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > > > End of MIDRANGE-L Digest, Vol 2, Issue 492 > ******************************************
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